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Try again... Smith believes that he - Smith - will get the job. His belief is well grounded(justified). It's also false.

I'm going to attempt to get you to understand something... one more time... If a belief is justified(well-grounded) and false, then it poses no issue ...

We agree. That was never at issue. Whether or not all claims are believed by someone... that was at issue. Correct. It's a meaningful claim that no on...

Of course not, but that is the very point. A claim need not be believed in order to exist.

There is nothing that can make it true/false. That's the reason that it is neither. It doesn't have what it takes in order to be either.

Contradictions are not meaningless. Rather, contradiction requires a plurality of meaningful statements.

The universe was created by my imaginary friend, the invisible pink and black unicorn.

Invalid inferences can be based upon true belief. They are not knowledge. So what? That's not a problem for well grounded true belief. Invalid inferen...

Correct. Having truth value is the result of following the rules of correct inference. I do not subscribe to the idea of "a" truth. The easiest explan...

That's an odd account of what's taken place here. Accounting malpractice clearly to anyone who looks for themselves.

Did you miss this? You certainly have not given in subsequent due attention. :brow: Or this? Tedious? Fairly straightforward if you ask me. Which part...

You'll have to do better than that... JTB is in no need of any solution. There's no problem with it. There are no examples of well grounded true belie...

This is just ridiculous. I cannot take it seriously.

That may be correct. I'm unsure. Either way, we need to draw and maintain the distinction between truth conditions and truth value. Unless I'm working...

A has no truth conditions, therefore A is not truth-apt. P neglects this and arrives at nonsense as a result. It makes no sense to say something incap...

Not all belief can be falsified. So, not all belief that may be false can be known to be.

That's true, if one holds that truth and usefulness count as properties then the terms "truth" and "usefulness" are used as a means to denote differen...

Looks like you're squirming to me... What makes that claim true? What makes the other claim false? Straight forward questions. Given that truth is pri...

He's been all over the place... Fun though...

Nah. There are some pretty outrageous claims, ones none of us believe, that cannot be falsified. That said, being unable to be falsified does not alwa...

Or you're using all sorts of commonly used words in odd ways? :wink:

This makes no sense to me. Truth cannot be false. Belief can. Thus, belief can be falsifiable. Truth cannot.

I have no trouble telling the difference between belief and truth... even in practice, sometimes... We can check often enough to know that sometimes w...

Nah, you're just wrong about my position...

What makes it so?

What makes it so? :brow:

Yeah. Nice addition. Seems to me that those are examples of incoherence, self-contradiction, equivocation, and/or untenability. Intimately connected t...

Because there is nothing that makes the Liar true or false, but there is something that makes the other true. When the truth conditions are met, the s...

Nice. It has truth conditions.

This is just nonsense. Reason does not use language. All assertion, direction, and prescription is language use. Reason cannot assert, direct, or pres...

Neither X nor Y are capable of being true or false.

This is incoherent and/or self-contradictory. When we use something as a means to judge what's acceptable, it is a standard by which we determine what...

Undeniable open and public attempts to discredit and derail. He's done everything he thinks is rightfully in his power to put an end to all investigat...

The professor has left a good impression upon me as well... Looking forward to reading more of his input. Wishing I would have paid closer attention t...

No. It would be a false statement followed by a true one about the same referent. It is a contradiction, but only the latter half of it is true(assumi...

Could you continue on to an explanation of what counts as an alternating truth value? Is that what makes it self-negating? If it's true, it is false, ...

I don't see the direct link between The Liar and Godel's proof that there is always an assumption buried somewhere within an inductive system of logic...

How does a language less creature possibly have a true belief based upon normative reason? :brow:

Perhaps it is necessary to return to the agreement... We agree that language less creatures can have justified true belief. Now the disagreement... Fo...

The explanation(definition) seems to be synonymous with warrant, a notion that is sometimes taken up in lieu of justification. So, surely you can see ...

By offering another kind of knowledge? I don't think adherents of JTB deny all other kinds of knowledge, do they? If they do not, then my quote above ...

Warrant? What counts as sufficient/adequate reason to believe?

I wouldn't say that. But it doesn't matter. It's not justified. The problems for JTB, if there are any, need to be clear cut examples of justified(wel...

We're in agreement here, it seems.

That... I would not take issue with... perhaps. I'm tentative here, though. I mean, you and me have a past so... :joke: It looks ok on it's face, and ...

The difference between justified and well grounded, from my vantage point... Typically a justified belief, to the best of my knowledge, is one that ca...

That ought be put a bit differently... The person believes that a broken clock is working... that's better.

Well, that's not true at all actually. Smith's belief in Case I is false. Gettier wants to say that Smith deduces and believes the proposition(via the...

The person believes that a broken clock is correct. That belief is false. It also serves as ground for the subsequent belief regarding what time it is...

Russell's clock is really not on par with Gettier. Russel doesn't employ entailment or disjunction; both of which amount to being accounting malpracti...