Alright $#$%!!, I am a hypocrite (apologies again to @"Paine"); just one more (hit off the pipe) and then back to the grindstone (and by that I mean t...
@"Joshs" @"Paine" @"Ludwig V" Although we may have responses yet to Sec 18, and I do see the subsequent conversations as relevant and interesting and ...
@"Paine" And don't we see here the possibility of the characterization and placement of philosophy (reason) in relation to “emotion” as mentioned here...
@"Ludwig V" Interesting point. I did class them all to be reactions to skepticism, but each are different, so, worth a look. And I’m trying to wrap my...
@"Ludwig V" @"Paine" I’ve seen the term “psychological” used a few times now, and, since it does not appear to be used in reference to actual subconsc...
@"Paine" In saying that thinking can be in all those “locations” I take it just to say there is associated logic to thinking in each case. The confusi...
I think I just didn’t see the original connection @"Paine" was making to the “opinion” issue, so I took the rest as just an unrelated discussion of th...
@"Ludwig V" Ah, my mistake; I lost the trail (from p.60). The “opinion” reference is obviously germane. I take it up here (though, of course, there is...
@"Paine" Obviously I’d like to stay on topic (understanding this text), or at least until we get to the end (only 10 pages left), after which we will ...
@"Ludwig V" @"Paine" Section 18 - the unidentifiable individual (p.61-65) At first, I take his “considering the criteria for the identity of a person”...
But if you remember on p.6, the solipsist/skeptic were already in a “muddle” that they turned into a problem so that they could have it be something t...
@"Ludwig V" Section 17 - The solipsist’s reality (p.58-61) We may not get this “why” yet, but it is not an issue with language—not just notation. The ...
@"Joshs" @"Ludwig V" Section 16 - Physical vs logical impossibility (p. 56-57) As above, here (with color) we have a situation mistakenly analogized a...
@"Joshs" Section 15 - Why couldn’t I know your pain? (p. 53-55) Well my understanding is that an illocutionary act is a very specific thing, but it is...
@"Joshs" I agree there is an important difference that my pain is in my body, as in: not your body, but also that it is “mine”. I do think that the im...
@"Joshs" @"Ludwig V" Section 14 - Variety of criteria and the place of pain (p. 49-52) The problem of (knowing) someone else’s “mind” is an age-old is...
They are the same, as my expressions, and of me. This is partly that it sets me apart, as the individual that is doing it, who is thus responsible for...
@"Joshs" This is the most-succinct, elucidating summary I’ve come across (of course needing to know what he is getting at with “expression”, and what ...
@"Joshs"@"Ludwig V" Sec. 13 Personal experience and skepticism (p. 45-48] At a certain point in the next section (“It seems to us… p. 47 ), he lands o...
I don’t take this work as an argument for a conclusion, such as that there are no processes of the brain of which we are not conscious. He implicitly ...
@"Joshs" @"Ludwig V" Sec. 12 Expression and its accompaniments—memory, judgment, thinking (p. 40-43) And so we are adding layers back in, and I think ...
I take his point to be that we create the idea of a mechanism. We try to internalize the processes of thinking, understanding, and meaning to imagine ...
I believe he would say that understanding is not a quality or thing—that is present or not; it is that picture/analogy which leads to the feeling of o...
@"Joshs" Sec 11 Our words’ connection to the world (p. 35-39) Nice work; my thoughts are along the same lines. He is showing us examples** of how we c...
I had already written something up on the section about intention and meaning (which I posted above). I had assumed you were going to pick up the ques...
Yes it doesn’t mean metaphysical “existence”, but I don’t think we should trivialize what it does mean, even in the sense of not being here. Before a ...
@"Ludwig V" Sec 10 Intending and Meaning (pp. 32-34) “To intend a picture to be the portrait of so-and-so (on the part of the painter, e.g.) is neithe...
@"Joshs" Sec 9 Non-existence and Statements without Facts (pp. 30-32) Thanks for cracking this, well done; I was at a loss (and maybe still am) as to ...
@"Joshs" @"Ludwig V" Sec 8 Purpose of Possibilities and Grammar (pp. 28-30) His hope in pointing out multiple variations of “know” or “longing” (p. 29...
This seems to assume this is about justification, and not an investigation of other examples to see why we insist on certain prerequisites (and what w...
@"Joshs" Fair point; after “problematizing” discrepancies (as described early on), we want to find the answer, and not just come to people and say, “L...
@"Ludwig V" @"Joshs" Sec 7 Puzzling Rules (pp. 25-28) If philosophy’s puzzles “spring” from this desire for exactness, that makes its own expectation ...
But this doesn’t square with framing it as distinctly not foundational (“loose”, “conventional”, “only co-ordinates… with”, being “unable to answer” w...
I thought it was interesting (clever?) because philosophers see “always coinciding” and think either: here is a “form of life” that justifies the know...
Yes, though not that it is always about grounding, and here just not determined somehow. In this toothache example there is a desire for knowledge (ce...
I realize now my examples played on generalizations (and perhaps stereotypes) and not in a necessarily favorable light so that was a mistake. Obviousl...
@"Athena" This is a good list of examples. I noticed that the dictionary divides between objects that offend (smoke, or the smell of fish) and just of...
@"Athena" I just wanted to make clear that, in my post here, I was only trying to point out what I take as the real problem and the responsible party,...
The most pointed attempt I know to “prove someone wrong” would be Austin’s reading of Ayer in “Sense and Sensibilia” which we read through here. But e...
I think the entire history of philosophy is self-referential and defined against itself. Even someone seemingly unique like Descartes or Wittgenstein ...
Using AI is either explicitly against the rules, or is simply frowned upon, for the same reasons as using a summary of a topic, such as Wikipedia. Ori...
@"Joshs" @"Wayfarer" @"frank" @"Ludwig V" @"Punshhh" I think the opportunity is there. We might take a moment to investigate the specific differences ...
@"Joshs" @"Astorre" I take Wittgenstein’s use of the duck/rabbit picture specifically only for him to have a simple, uncluttered, obvious case (like t...
I’m suggesting that to perceive something (about something) is (the same as) to become aware of an aspect of it, regard it as something, as evidenced ...
Thank you for making the effort to try to humanize this group of logicians. I would suggest not looking at it as handling your being offended, but tha...
I’ll just reply to this via message. I apologize for the “theory” dig; I was just jealous you were being taken seriously I think. I do admit that, in ...
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