4:00 pm CET is 7:00 am PST where I am but yeah philosophy lecture in the middle of the night is sure-fire sleep aid. I’ll try to summarize if I make i...
This was the whole of the invite forwarded to me; no notice necessary. Undoubtedly just listening. These are secrets Whitman would say, but not kept s...
FYI Sam ( @"Banno" @"Ludwig V" ) Lecture by Peter Hacker: “On Certainty Some remarks on the new edition” The Lecture will take place in ZOOM on Novemb...
I think this is ultimately where he lands (as Cavell will claim) and that he gets into to in the PI. I tried to post all my notes together and it was ...
After I give @"Ludwig V"’ a chance to comment on my response to his latest, I’m going to repost all my commentary in one post, as, by renaming the dis...
@"Ludwig V" Thank you for this. My hope is that I have read the words themselves correctly first and then dug deeper and let it give us everything it ...
@"Paine" I’m interested to hear more. The skeptic’s argument at their word appears to fly in the face of common sense, but yet to make sense to philos...
I agree the comparison with science is key. I don’t think the focus is on the distinction so much as that traditional philosophy wishes it had the sam...
I’m not sure what the “set of signs” are, that they would be different (irreducible). The things he has us say are the same. “I can’t feel your pain.”...
Well, without a further explanation of what “psychology” means, I’ll assume we are talking about the kind of thing the skeptic pictures as a “thought”...
Is this to say you think I’ve made a mistake in reading? or that you disagree with him? And, to try to say this again, I’m not arguing this is the onl...
I mean… it’s not gonna hurt (it is a dense 70 pages though). I hope it would help and be easier to scan through the discussion for the posts labeled S...
Yes, but, importantly (though not in disagreement), not a physical process, or a conceptual process structured on the criteria for an object, but the ...
@"Banno" @"Sam26" @"Paine" @"Ludwig V" @"Jamal" @"Manuel" @"Astrophel" @"Joshs" @"Kurt Keefner" @"Shawn" Wrap it up! I don't know who all has an inter...
When he asks us to consider the question, the inflection of “Why should what we do here be called ‘philosophy’?” can change either between “I don’t ca...
This is our desire that everything be subject to the method and implications of science, which is the basis of its facts. If you follow its method, an...
Yes, if a hypothesis were to be judged before being verified, authority (expertise) may put the odds in their favor, but they might not be privy to fa...
And of course as I am a terrible thinker that can’t imagine other arguments (nod to @"Paine"), this has blown my mind. The difference between Witt and...
@"Ludwig V" @"Paine" I'm going to formally rescind my claim that Witt is not discussing thinking, meaning (understanding, seeing, experiencing, using ...
Sorry there appears to be so much ancillary concern/interpretation here. I understand where you are coming from. In fact, philosophy is littered with ...
Yes, roughly. I do agree with framing it as a discussion about logic, and thus, yes, grammatical in that sense**, but not to prove the logic of, for e...
Well if I haven’t provided the evidence in the text (or examples) for what I read in it, then I haven’t been doing my job, but I tried to make that my...
Well now we’re just agreeing too much for this to be fun. But to this, I did read that Austin and Wittgenstein bristled at the mention of the other, t...
True, true. His method is to make the most sense of what they say even if that entails imagining a whole new world to do it. Ah but allowing for the p...
Just that Socrates doesn’t hear anything as important unless it meets his criteria. Obviously a poor joke. True, there is more going on than just look...
@"Paine" I get that there is a difference between what Witt is doing and (cognitive) linguistics or the scientific study of our ability to communicate...
@"Ludwig V" First instance of man-listening. I just couldn’t with the off-the-wall examples. I mean I know it’s hard to create a situation that matche...
@"Ludwig V" “Claim of Reason” really but that’s a tomb. “Availability of the Later Wittgenstein” I think. There’s the example of method and evaluation...
The skeptic has a singular need (for certainty). Witt’s method shows society’s various interests (“desires”) in our “general practices”, thus allowing...
I take all three instances as used in the sense of the first. The teacher/student examples to work out the logic of our relation to others, not the so...
I take it as the topic under investigation in the PI—why do we/they want this logical purity? And, not to discuss it here, but he does mention “convic...
@"Ludwig V" @"Joshs" @"Paine" If there must be a further explanation that all of us can give examples of what anyone would say when X, and the logic o...
At this point (as it is taken up in the PI) I’m putting a pin in asking the greater ramifications or other reasons why the properties of an object (ca...
This would require much more explanation; Cavell takes this up better than I could a number of times in the essays in “Must We Mean What We Say”. It i...
Agreed; he is not throwing in the towel. All I wanted to point out is that he is showing another option to compare to the skeptic’s, rather than engag...
@"Ludwig V" @"Joshs" @"Paine" Section 20 - Finale! (p. 70-74) This mention of “opinion” brings us back to where “The solipsist… is not stating an opin...
Great quote; boring ol’ Kant can zing ya. "This method… to investigate whether the object of the dispute is not perhaps a mere mirage at which each wo...
@"Paine" This is absolutely how it should be, and Witt does say that we can always layer on more complexity, and he himself regularly adds on or chang...
@"Ludwig V" Agreed; getting fixated on the topic of the example is a big problem, and of course at a certain point it gets to be a matter of what impl...
@"Paine" @"Ludwig V" thanks for making it seem possible. I take him to be saying that we could agree to symbolically hold an “exceptional place” (p.66...
@"Paine" Still working on the finale, but procrastinating. The mental image does not impart life to the sign, but the sign is still “dead”, i.e., basi...
Your point that all philosophers, in some way or other, do, or may, not want to be understood is well taken. Cavell claims the realist, idealist, and ...
I think we might say that “use”, in terms of that concept, is not interpreted, but maybe this is just to say: what do we consider (interpret) as a use...
@"Ludwig V" @"Joshs" This is a good distinction to point out. The "us" and "we" being both in contrast to the skeptic ("them"), but also plural, which...
@"Joshs" @"Paine" @"Ludwig V" Section 18B - “use” (oh boy, here we go…) p.65 (I can’t face 66-69 yet.) One of the I think most misunderstood technical...
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