When something exists, its potential is realized. If it is a first cause, it must be proven that it is a first cause. Prior to a first cause's incepti...
You are correct. This is also correct. No. Please explain how you came to this conclusion from what I wrote. Ucarr, you are overcomplicating things ag...
Correct only in the technical fact that it is possible there were two different 'firsts' that happened at the same time. Its been a while, so recall t...
Let me clear this up a bit. First, if you remember a first cause cannot cause another first cause. That's just a first cause causing something else. S...
I'm not sure where you got that. I'll point out again: This is not a claim of any 'one thing' being a first cause. Its just a logical note that there ...
Correct, because you cannot draw 'nothing'. This doesn't negate what I've stated. If you have limits, nothing must be beyond those limits. The only wa...
If 'the whole' is everything and the whole has a limit, then by consequence there is nothing past that limit. If the whole is limitless, then there is...
No, I'm not saying there exists a black area, I'm saying there's nothing. It is the logical consequence of there being a limit. To state there is a li...
Creativity is the ability to come up with ideas that few if any other people come up with. Positive creativity results in a new idea that other people...
To be clear, its not a lack of reason. Its rationalization. Its about constructing some reason to distrust those that would go against what you want. ...
One thing to remember is that people are not inherently rational. It takes effort, oftentimes training, and a willingness to be wrong. Most people are...
Imagine a grain of sand. Outside is nothing. "Outside" is the direction. I think you need to go into the specifics of how Cantor's theorem applies to ...
Not a worry Bob! I was away this weekend myself. Scientific measurement is a fine way to represent identities at times. When removing the human elemen...
My apologies for initially missing this Gnomon! Correct. People seem to think I'm using this to claim the existence of some specific first cause like ...
Hey Mok, been away a few days. :) As long as we're identifying space as 'something', that's fine by me for this argument. Lets make sure we're not mak...
As long as you view space as a substance, this is fine. This is why it is not irrelevant. If space is not a substance, it is usually synonymous with '...
Time doesn't exist somewhere on a hard drive. The universe is in a state at one moment, then another state in the next. The reason why the universe is...
Philosophy in the general sense can be. Philosophy as a discussion of rigorous proofs, logic, and proposals is not. Since we are in online forums open...
You need to redefine space as being something then. An 'unoccupied' area is seen as 'nothing'. Things occupy. Nothing does not. Its fairly important h...
Wouldn't a continuous area that is unoccupied be 'nothing' though? I am ok with the idea of simply stating, "space is a substance" as a start. In prin...
Ok, I see. So if I have your idea right, you believe that space is a thing. If this is the case, and space is an actual thing, then just replace my ex...
I'll clarify as I wrote this all quickly. Philosophy can generally be seen as protoscience. In some ways I personally view it as logically derived hyp...
I'm currently working on one right now. https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/14834/a-measurable-morality/p1 Been having a good discussion with it...
Very good question. Let me think. Art and literature are for entertainment? Sure. Politics, education, and business? If its because the philosophy is ...
To be fair, if the philosophy has been around for more than a few decades and isn't integrated into science in some way by now, its likely a failed or...
Hello again MoK! Let me take your abstract into a thought example for a minute. Lets say that in the universe, only a single grain of sand exists. Now...
It is manageability combined with relevant accuracy. I noted a while back that when we use a staging level as a base, what is reasonably relevant is o...
Most people do not understand that the English description of quantum mechanics is not the same as the mathematic description of quantum mechanics. Un...
The later is true. Fundamental material reality cannot be created by us, so its not like we can create more. As such, all the pieces are in play outsi...
I think the problem you might be running into here Bob is the fact that "good" is a broad word that is highly contextual. Its kind of like debating "t...
Agreed, nothing cannot create anything. Nothing is nothing. It is not a 'thing'. There is a question of whether something can be uncaused, a topic I c...
First, it is unnecessary to know specifically what a fundamental entity is, only that it is. Second, we know that fundamental entities must combine to...
Right. I'm not claiming that whether we can identify a first cause or not, it would still exist. What we believe is a first cause is likely a moving t...
No. That was the entire point. You even thumbed up Lucas's quote which agreed with mine. Lets clarify a difference here. Given infinite time, all thin...
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, the air still vibrates with the fall. We don't need someone to hear the vibration of the ...
Correct. That's what I'm trying to say with the examples. I did want to note that the conclusion applies to reality, not our knowledge or understandin...
Fortunately for her, this is a very open ended question. Considering its only 1k words as well, this is more asking her to think through on the subjec...
Things-in-themselves are not things-as-ascribed. As soon as you being to ascribe something to a thing-in-itself, it is now a thing-as-ascribed. The en...
Right, if you don't explicitly list out the examples I mentioned. As I've mentioned, morality is contextual. Without context you can create all sorts ...
Correct. Then that is not my intention. I was not aware it would come across like that. Thinking back to when I first fleshed it out, I haven't walked...
Let me phrase it this way: Nothing to something involves spacetime. Spacetime is the result of nothing to something. Spacetime is there, so a change o...
If you're saying, "Once a first cause has incepted, it cannot be anything other than what it is," you are correct. I would say yes. This conclusion ar...
Ah, ok. I think you missed this point I made before, so I'll point it out again. You never said we need spacetime BEFORE a change can occur. You said ...
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