Luke

Why are there discussions on this topic instead of not discussions on this topic? What’s the difference between an empty possible world and “no world”...

You can't convey the subjective character of "how it looks/feels to me" in language (such that others can know, e.g., how red looks to you), so there'...

You can say all that publicly, like you just did. But I still don't know how the colour red looks to you.

Maybe, but I'm sure you could pick out a red object if required.

I obviously didn't invent the word "Qualia". "It’s not a Something, but not a Nothing either!" Depends what you deem to be "helpful". It seems relevan...

The character or quality of sensation 'S'; what it feels like. In Wittgenstein's argument, it is the private sensation itself, or what each person's b...

Because I'd have to be that person in order to have their experiences. I can only have my own experiences. I've never said that. I can't perceive othe...

It's not a model. I'm telling you what I haven't experienced. As far as I know, it is logically impossible to experience such a thing, because I canno...

So it's no more than an assumption, right? Why can it not be anything stronger than an assumption? Also, does this imply that near-identical bodies pr...

That's my question to you: how do you know that it isn't? It's private because I've never known or experienced anyone else's sensations except my own....

What do you take all of this to mean? I think it could be argued that, on the one hand, Wittgenstein says it is nonsensical to make knowledge claims a...

I assumed you would disagree with this: "Wittgenstein is not making the case that we do not have private sensations, only that we cannot talk about th...

How do we recognise private sensations or how are our experiences shared? By seeing other people's behaviours, not their sensations. We can only assum...

I see no mention of language use in that quote; only a very specific mention of subjectivity.

Uhh, yeah? We've been discussing subjectivity. If the topic of discussion was intended to be the private language argument, then you should have made ...

You misunderstand. I mean that most people simply have pain without needing to make any predictions. But this highlights our differences in talking ab...

Why do we need to "predict" what pain is? Why does someone who is in pain, after stubbing their toe, need to make any predictions? You talk of pain as...

Can you? You call me disingenuous but can’t even direct me to one argument against the privacy of subjective experience, and then you expect me to sum...

Run along now, Banno.

Try supporting your claims for once. If I’m being disingenuous then prove it by directing me to one argument against private experiences. Of course yo...

So you’re not going to direct me to any arguments despite your accusation of disingenuousness? Left and right are not subjective experiences. You and ...

Not against the privacy of subjective experience, no. If you think I’m being disingenuous, then feel free to direct me to one.

You keep saying this, but I've already rebutted it. You might have noticed that if you had actually addressed the content of my last three posts, Sinc...

I don't insist on using language only this way. I have never said "this isn't how "awareness" is ordinarily used" about your use of the word. You are ...

Does this imply you are no longer arguing that I'm aware of my brain signals? I never meant to imply that "all my thoughts are words"; only that I exp...

Well, it seems to me like I think and wonder in language, if that's any different. I'm never aware of myself thinking and wondering using neurons. How...

I typically think and wonder using language. Are you suggesting that the signals carried to and from the brain are linguistic? This relates to the poi...

Then why are you referring to "thinking" and "wondering"? Those are not things you do unconsciously. I'm not following you here. I asked you whether y...

So none of this is consciously thought/wondered. If you become aware of the signals by having the feeling, then the signals are inferred from the feel...

Which part is you becoming aware of the signals? Do I need to be thinking about a "What am I feeling right now" type of question in order to become aw...

Please point out the part where you said you become aware of the signals.

So, how do you become aware of the signals?

How do you become aware of these signals?

Infer them from what? I don't figure out that I'm in pain by carrying around an MRI machine to see what my brain is doing and then infer from the scan...

A reminder that the reason for our latest talk about pain sensations was due to your claim that all knowledge is inferential and my questioning what i...

Why not? I'm not trying to eliminate the third-person perspective in favour of first-person perspectives, like you are trying to eliminate first-perso...

What do you mean by a "technical definition"? I'm not aware of what goes on in my brain/body to produce my consciousness, and I don't need to be. I've...

What I'm conscious of is what I think my arm is doing, even if it's doing something else. What I am not conscious of are the brain signals that help t...

My arm movements are not my brain function. Am I aware of my arm movements or am I aware of my brain function? The awareness of my arm movements might...

How am I aware of the signals being sent from my thalamus? If I were conscious of it, I think I would know.

Well, you said that all knowledge is inferential. I asked what inferences you make to know that you are having pain sensations. You claimed that you m...

Who is making these inferences? Not you. That is, not the same ‘you’ that is the subject of pain sensations, so I think this is a category error of so...

Depends what is meant by “comparing it with an internal sample”. If it means no more than remembering what red looks like (to you), or remembering how...

How are your own pain sensations inferred? From what are they inferred?

You can obviously access your own sensations. I meant/implied how can you access other people's sensations (rather than their behaviour). How does any...

If your position is that sensations are public rather than private, then how do you access/see them? Surely the distinction can be drawn (as Wittgenst...

The one that hurts. And my private sensation of red is the one that looks reddish. Does it feel/look the same to you? How would you know?

I've already answered that: I was taught the use of the word. But I don't see the point of your question. I'm not talking about the privacy of languag...

Sorry, I was unclear. I meant: I know which of my feelings/sensations are associated with 'pain' because I was taught the language and the use of the ...

? None of this explains why it’s wrong to talk about the privacy or publicity of sensations. The issue here is not about the different senses of the w...