I don't see why we would need such a distinction. A better, more complete, more modern state just is a destination. Nietzsche's cool though. I'm not e...
In the everyday common sense term, progress just means to move forward. If we obtain a goal, we progress. If we acquire something better, we progress....
Let's keep this mostly spoiler-free, but HOLY SHIT did you guys see last night's Game of Thrones episode? Brutal. Like a medieval version of Saving Pr...
People are psychologically flexible. They can bend and twist in various ways to cope with pain. Like a rubber band, it's flexible but it takes a singl...
Ever yell "FUCK!" when you stubbed your toe? Made the pain a lot less sharp. Coping involves resuming your general activities as if nothing has change...
Yes, or so they claim. The feel-like qualia of the mind still needs to be accounted for. But I'm not entirely convinced that we can reduce qualia to s...
I laughed out loud when this song played at the "shocking" end of a Game of Thrones episode. The juxtaposition was awesome and hilarious. The song ain...
Epicureanism, and also Stoicism, are philosophies that have a perfect figurehead as a goal to attain. To a certain extent this is also present in Budd...
I mean we could argue a kind of idealism, similar in some respects to Neo-Platonism, in that the entire world is the Idea of the Demiurge, and we are ...
Reminds me of the creationists who think the world really is only 6000 years old but God/the Devil just made it look like it was 7 billion years old t...
I've toyed with this idea before. That life, or perhaps consciousness, is a good thing regardless of what is experienced. I don't think it's a very de...
There is a difference between being worth continuing and being worth ending. You can have a life not worth continuing while not having a life worth en...
Interesting perspective, I basically agree. It's interesting because it reminds me of Nietzsche. Dignity, meaning, self-hood, POWER, REBELLION, these ...
Certainly there are different ways one can arrive at antinatalism. Hating life is but one reason. I personally don't hate life. Nor do I love life lik...
I think that even though these pessimists were and are not largely living horrible lives of tremendous suffering, they nevertheless are aware of the c...
The existence of these pleasures however, in my opinion, to a far less vocal and obsessive antinatalism than one practiced by those elsewhere on the i...
I certainly don't think there is anything wrong with it. That's why I suggested it to see if you have any thoughts. The Will and such proposed by Scho...
Just thinking about this a little more, perhaps we can have a more moderate stance of antinatalism based upon structural flaws in life without pro-mor...
To sum up what I am arguing for: it cannot be that a life not worth starting is a life worth continuing, since continuation requires a beginning. Perh...
True. But the classic pessimists were arguing that all lives are structurally problematic. They were claiming an verifiable aspect of a person's life ...
But the point of a philosophical position isn't just to gain a following. It's supposed to claim itself to be correct. You can be humble and aware tha...
What if aesthetics is subjective? Unlike pleasure or pain, how the world affects a person aesthetically seems to be subjective. In the end, aren't aes...
Can aesthetics be a justification for ethical action (or lack thereof in this case)? If aesthetics aren't bad in the pain/pleasure dichotomy sense, ho...
This is what I wanted to discuss. Sounds to me that this "sufficient burden" implies a certain level of mediocrity. Not enough to kill oneself over, b...
But in this case, arguing for antinatalism by appeal to structural issues of life is inherently connected to suicide. If you don't want to participate...
Right, I just want to get a clearer understanding here. Does the aesthetic alone attack our sense of pride or individuality? Like Voltaire said, every...
In other words, I take your (and basically my) position to be that pleasure is contingently dependent upon structural issues. If these structural issu...
So like I said before in the other thread, life is like cake: sometimes really good, but ultimately fattening and bad for you. You can't have cake wit...
Sort of. I'm not arguing that you should actually kill yourself. I'm arguing that IF these are your premises (life sucks across the board), THEN you h...
The point I was trying to make is that without these subjective reasons, would you kill yourself or have the desire to kill yourself? If so, then I th...
What if you lose your memory? Are you no longer valuable? These little pains are something to shrug off and laugh about after with your friends. But s...
Interesting, I hadn't really considered this perspective. It seems to lead to the view that something can be worthwhile while simultaneously dependent...
lol True Detective was kinda the catalyst that drove me to look into pessimistic literature. Although I think sooner or later I would have stumbled up...
Realism about metaphysical questions just means that they are legitimate questions, not semantic ones. I believe that questions about time, compositio...
Nah what Wikipedia said isn't what I was talking about. I meant Karen Bennett's epistemicism - realism about metaphysical questions but skeptical of a...
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