Well done! This is always an issue, you just can not trust anything without examining it in great detail yourself. :sad: I think the logic of a time o...
Yes, it is no different really. The only difference is that the artist is not there. What is there is something that represents him / her - entangled ...
Yes, to perceive is inherently experiential, so emotional - has feeling and quality. This begs the question how are aesthetics relevant to art exclusi...
How is a "self" different to one's consciousness? If art is an expression of consciousness, then art is also an expression of self. Art work is inform...
The way I am starting to understand this from an information theoretic is: The particle is a body of information being acted upon by an informational ...
:up: In systems theory what is always there - what is common to all systems, is self organization. In information theory, it is information that self ...
:up: Yep! 1. Potential information exists in the book on a shelf 2. Actual information occurs when we read it - interact with it. 3. Consciousness occ...
No problem at all. :smile: You raise reasonable objections in an intelligent manner - what more can one ask for? :up: Art is an expression of human co...
The Information Philosopher - A common definition of information is the act of informing - the communication of knowledge from a sender to a receiver ...
:up: :lol: From my perspective I see the poodle. Yeah, the material art form is a private ( but can be public ) language invented by an artist ( in mo...
( I was wondering where you were? ) :up: This highlights the potential of information. This is pretty close, and works well in your scheme. Another as...
Duchamp was a great art thinker - a philosopher of art. Modern art asked the hard questions - where are we, who are we, why are we? And what is art? I...
This is best answered through information theory. It seems information is something concrete such that it changes our neurology, such that we become c...
:up: :up: If deemed to be so. :up: :chin: Only when they are being observed, or when the temperature is measured. :up: :chin: I understand what you me...
:up: Yeah - Self organization!. "The term self-organization refers to the process by which individuals organize their communal behavior to create glob...
:up: Yeah, that's the way I'm seeing it also. I think consciousness is effectively work in progress, but not absolutely. There are studies suggesting ...
You can not avoid expressing your consciousness in any activity that you partake in, so how can you avoid it when making art? You can not. So, what ar...
Not sure what you mean. My point is that art must reflect mind activity - that is the constant in art - the only constant - everything else is variabl...
The forms are endlessly variable and open ended, and so can not be defined. Art can not be defined in terms of it's forms, which is the mistake most p...
Art work is information about the artist's consciousness. This is a definition of art that is falsifiable by providing an art work that it does not co...
My thoughts are not universal, but the underlying process giving rise to them is - self organization. We are the same, just different in formation. Re...
This is where the definition comes into its own. it tells us that the artist - audience relationship is a relationship of consciousness in relation to...
In arriving at the definition, I looked for the things present in art always - for all time. This , of course is mind activity - art reflects mind act...
Please read my reply to Ambrosia above. The definition itself is intended as a work of art. The fact is : "art is an ungrounded variable mental constr...
I have addressed the relevant points. It may surprise you, but I am not interested in your opinion of what a definition of art should be. Nor am I int...
It is a definition of art. When defining something you don't get a choice as to how it exists! :lol: It is irreducibly defined. It may not be what you...
:up: No ill will in philosophy, just endless debate! :smile: One last try, and I am done. Art is information about the artist's evolving process of se...
:up: Yes, now we are on the same page. It often takes a few posts. :smile: I don't think it is possible, at present, or ever, to absolutely define the...
I have defined art in such a way as it could be defined. In irreducible terms, and at the same time defined the limits of art. I don't think my defini...
I have defined consciousness as an evolving process of self organization, but I do not know what is the source of self organization in the universe, h...
At least you acknowledge this much. An artwork is information about the artist's evolving process of self organization. We dont know what self organiz...
Yes, art provides information about an artist's consciousness - we came full circle by way of questioning, since, it seems, you did not really underst...
Initially I did want to publish it, but then I changed my mind. It is a scientific, irreducible, and falsifiable definition of art, something Wittgens...
These are elements of your consciousness - of your self organization. This is a definition of art - it captures all art for all time, for all cultures...
That is obvious from what you have written. This is a definition of art. It defines precisely what art provides - information about the artist's consc...
Whilst you are thinking about this then it is information, but when you stop thinking about this and think about the football, then it is not informat...
An art created by a particular consciousness, will be appreciated by a likewise consciousness. But not by an unlike consciousness. This fact, prevents...
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