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We can do whatever we want to so long as we do not violate any of the laws of physics, and then if some of what we do is supported by some, then all t...
August 11, 2021 at 02:32
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August 11, 2021 at 01:55
In the OP I gave a variety of examples of definitions of information. But I intended to answer the question of "What is information" collectively. I h...
August 11, 2021 at 01:50
This is the assumption that I was talking about. "This view of information assumes an underlying substance". I think we agree on this, though we misun...
August 11, 2021 at 01:45
I would say the information you are referring to has its neural correlates, thus is identical to a physical interaction in the brain, as described by ...
August 11, 2021 at 00:02
So a physical interaction is a necessity for information? Information only occurs during or after the fact? As a monist I would say that is true. When...
August 10, 2021 at 23:55
Pragmatic theory of information "The pragmatic information content is the information content received by a recipient; it is focused on the recipient ...
August 10, 2021 at 23:41
Wow, what excellent commentary, full of deep insights. I think by the end of this thread we may be able to describe some new information about informa...
August 10, 2021 at 23:27
Proof? Note how people are only conscious of the things that matter to them. The spectrum of light is very broad, but we only see what matters to us. ...
August 10, 2021 at 07:36
I was as much referring to the difficulty in understanding. :smile: Thanks for clarifying.
August 10, 2021 at 07:21
Such Bias with a capital B! I often think that a philosopher should start their enquiry possessing no knowledge at all, and then they would be free to...
August 10, 2021 at 07:17
People like the information philosopher have gone down that route. I trust in Shannon's understanding that information always exists embedded in a sub...
August 10, 2021 at 03:00
Are you familiar with Neural networks? If you start with a bias then you can not get anywhere. What is so wrong with panpsychism? Buddhism is panpsych...
August 10, 2021 at 02:50
See my reply to Issac above. I am searching for a philosophical understanding, and would be quite comfortable with a general principle of what is goin...
August 10, 2021 at 01:57
Quality, quantity, interaction. I will bear that in mind and try to arrive at a definition that has wide agreement and input.
August 10, 2021 at 01:50
Information describes the form of a substance - the edge, shape, perturbations, texture, volume, distinctive features, etc. Without this information t...
August 10, 2021 at 01:44
Thanks for the reply. That Channel has a few similar such videos, that I found extremely interesting. I will look into Friston's principle some more. ...
August 10, 2021 at 01:34
So you would agree with the view that we are a body of information integrating more information in our path? :up:
August 10, 2021 at 01:17
The information describes a primary substance, but not completely. Potentially there is always a deeper ingredient that creates a primary substance, a...
August 10, 2021 at 00:58
No, there is a primary substance, and then information about it. Those are the two logical necessities that we can never change. That is the metaphysi...
August 10, 2021 at 00:44
More then that - What is the source of order in the universe? That which integrates the Universe integrates us! I value Apo's input, and hope to conti...
August 10, 2021 at 00:39
I know what you mean it is a problem everybody experiences, because we tend to think of information only as something we receive. Which is true, BUT, ...
August 10, 2021 at 00:29
Information is a fundamental quantity. It is present in everything.
August 10, 2021 at 00:06
I can relate to what you are saying in some respects. I also have my quibbles about IIT. But I find Integrated information ( a concept preceding IIT )...
August 10, 2021 at 00:06
Thanks for the excellent summary. It seems a little like Neural networks, with the Markov chain, just much more complicated. Brains are obviously cent...
August 09, 2021 at 07:20
:grimace: I don't understand this. "our model challenges prominent theories on philosophy of mind, which assume that consciousness is a continuous str...
August 09, 2021 at 06:51
You provide me with expressions of your consciousness, that contain integrated information about it, whilst rubbishing me and IIT, all the while your ...
August 09, 2021 at 03:57
All of this is an expression of your consciousness. Note, it is vaguely integrated. It is integrated information! :lol:
August 09, 2021 at 03:38
:up: Looking forward to it.
August 09, 2021 at 03:20
Are you saying that the Planck scale is irrelevant to life and mind? Did they just pop into existence separated from the foundations supporting them?
August 09, 2021 at 03:19
It is an integration of information. "What is information" is what this thread is supposed to be about.
August 09, 2021 at 03:01
IIT is panpsychist. Mass - energy - information is the new way forward. :smile: The mass-energy-information equivalence principle
August 09, 2021 at 02:50
Then what is this all about? The statement “everything is information” is also applicable to you. If you cannot provide something that is not informat...
August 09, 2021 at 02:17
Are you familiar with IIT Theory? It seems not. "According to the theory, just as the quantity of consciousness associated with a complex is determine...
August 09, 2021 at 02:04
I have provided you with a negatable statement. Very simple to negate! In the OP I quoted some definitions. Not my definitions. The purpose of the thr...
August 09, 2021 at 01:29
I'm quite surprised by your attitude. Lately you have provided some great links to the Royal Society, on how biology was going down the informational ...
August 09, 2021 at 01:16
"In this regard, in 1999, one of us (A.Z.) has put forward an idea which connects the concept of information with the notion of elementary systems. Fo...
August 09, 2021 at 01:06
As I understand it, initially Shannon called it a theory of communication.
August 09, 2021 at 00:49
It is logical. If we are to know about it, it will be via information of it. This is the simple reality. Everything is information. You can negate ( P...
August 09, 2021 at 00:28
Thanks for the link. I need a break. I'll read it later and comment.
August 08, 2021 at 04:55
What integrates the information In mind and everywhere else, is the big question? I think it is the anthropic principle. In certain ordered pockets of...
August 08, 2021 at 04:53
I did comment on this earlier. Yet everything is information, from an idealistic perspective. Consciousness has an ability to grey out certain informa...
August 08, 2021 at 04:11
Yeah, everything is a self organizing system. And the thing being organized is information.
August 08, 2021 at 03:58
Where in this statement is there an invite for unreasoned derision? Reasoned argument is always welcome. Much has been stated, there is plenty of meat...
August 08, 2021 at 03:49
So it holds up pretty well. No substantive counterarguments thus far. That would be how information integrates in mind. What makes information integra...
August 08, 2021 at 03:36
Thanks for the pointers. Yes, I'm breaking some rules I'm sure, in changing the camera angle. It is a powerful concept, but also a difficult one since...
August 08, 2021 at 03:23
There is a way to understand things that leads to this conclusion, namely Panpsychism. The evolution of informational structure might be a way to unde...
August 08, 2021 at 02:34
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August 08, 2021 at 02:14
Informational structure goes all the way down. Assuming electromagnetism is the fundamental substance, then a Wavicle is the finest grain of reality. ...
August 08, 2021 at 01:42
Specific reasons? Specific reasons? Specific reasons. pick an example state your reasons, and we can take it from there.
August 08, 2021 at 01:14