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You can falsify it, by providing something that is not information. I'm claiming everything exists as a body of information. This "body of information...

"Everything is information" There you go. A falsifiable, thus scientific , theory in three words. Beat that! :lol: And to refine it a little: Everythi...

Am I understanding you correctly ? - YOU are the one arguing epistemic cut. Not me - hence I have a panpsychic understanding. The anthropic principle ...

The current thinking does not allow an understanding. But an understanding is possible, however it requires a change of thinking. That is the bottom l...

This is the prevalent thinking that Barbieri and co are up against.

Habits belong to entities. Who / what is the entity with such habits?

In the early universe there could not have been an interpreter, but form arose and developed. In one sense everything is a development of form. In con...

I have always had trouble with the term semiosis as it implies an interpreter. But why should meaning have an interpreter? Meaning may be meaningful i...

Well that is more like it. At least this is relevant to what is being discussed. There are 21 papers we are focusing on, and the broad thrust is a rec...

We are discussing Barberi's paper. Did you read it?

All irrelevant to the topic at hand.

What you do not understand is - when you look at a rock it changes your brain patterning. So what exactly changed your brain patterning? This is what ...

I have always thought of it as a quality. Barbari goes into this in the paper. Traditionally quantities are measurable, but in biology they are not. S...

I think what @"Wayfarer" has brought up is good. We shouldn't rely on only one source however. we have an excellent 21 sources, all vying to be the ne...

We have been through this before - How is it relevant for irreversible systems?

Semantic - relating to meaning in language or logic. - Google. We need therefore a paradigm that goes beyond the two present paradigms of biology. A p...

This is the thing Frank, a lot of people are advocating for a reconsideration of "what information is". There are two papers in the link titled "What ...

As I said, you should read them yourself. I am not talking about any particular paper, rather the general thrust of the thinking. I don't specifically...

We are talking about open systems. Natural systems are dissipative. I'm not sure what you are getting at?

At the moment I have skimmed a lot of the papers, and I think you should also, to get a broad impression of the thinking. The point you are getting at...

@"Gnomon"@"frank" @"Wayfarer"@"Daniel"@"Athena" I previously linked to a Royal Society paper provided by Wayfarer. In researching it further I found i...

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Thanks for that. Your opinion is as valuable as anybody's. It is not as if anybody understands this conundrum. :smile: The still fuzzy and vague impre...

I wouldn't quite say chaos is the creative element. We shouldn't forget that things are largely determined. But not entirely determined, there is also...

It is written all over your posts. Out of interest, what is your source for saying that? https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~crsi/thesymbolicself.pdf

This is where we are at: I think of information as a singular co-element of a substance. As the pattern or form describing a substance. This pattern o...

You are basically saying your self concept is something separate from the environment you grew up in, different, and set apart, to the experiences tha...

I've been trying to do this collectively, but we cannot seem to even get to first base.

Self-organization, also called (in the social sciences) spontaneous order, is a process where some form of overall order arises from local interaction...

Think of a cell inside a body, and then think of a human as a cell in the biosphere. From what I know of Pierce, he seemed to be on the right track, b...

A Cell is an individual organism inside a body. A human is a cell inside the biosphere. Hope that helps.

A self is a transient body of information over a lifetime. In the absolute sense, changes with every moment of consciousness. The materials are regene...

At metaphysical bottom, there is a stuff and information about it. And If we are to understand the stuff, that is the way it will always be. What prec...

Did you see the video that @"Daniel" posted earlier. There are similar experiments with Killbots from Harvard. At the heart of systems theory, it is j...

As I explore this, and as has been previously mentioned. Information seems to be a fundamental quantity. The universe needs information fundamentally....

As per the OP, without information, everything would be nothing.

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In my understanding, information plays a deeper role then is normally understood. By understanding information in it's deepest sense a certain picture...

I'm assuming monism, where information has it's neural correlates. So information causes a physical change ( in brain structure ), and this physical c...

Thanks for this abstract. FEP and its pros and cons was touched upon earlier. In contrast to the energy / thermodynamic consideration, life is basical...

You do not need to resolve all the details / cannot currently resolve all the details,. But you know that once you do discover the details, that what ...

Yeah, but no room for epistemic cuts here! All is enactive, with a mind in the background, but also intrinsic to it ( every member and the whole ), ca...

I think I've seen that video. Its mostly Shannon communication theory? It is relevant but does not lend itself to a simple philosophical understanding...

I think as we explore the full meaning of information we will find it is the currency that enables the whole cosmos.

I am totally with you in an enactive understanding. I think you will find "Information" is what enables it. Not feeling so well today, will reply more...

The thread is quite deep now so you would have missed a lot. We have pretty much established that information goes all the way down to the most fundam...

Nobody is to blame. But it would be appreciated if you could dumb it down for us non physicists. I interact with the physics that I cannot avoid. I ag...

Yes, the change would be from moment to moment of consciousness. What I was thinking: If we say that a system is attuned to the world by way of inform...

Your communication style is very difficult to understand. Particularly for somebody who does not have a physics background.

Yes, our humanity gets in the way of reality. Have you considered what information is? @"Daniel" has bought in Change into the mix of considerations. ...