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This reminds me of the Chinese whisper? But I'm still not sure what your point is?

Are you denying the big bang?

That is your opinion, which you are entitled to. But If you are going to meaningfully engage with the thread then please point out the arguments and l...

But not prior to the big bang. Complexity starts after the big bang.

That is a quote from Wikipedia. Your argument is with them!

Without getting into QM, etc. I think you are agreeing that the integrated laws of nature do that.

I don't think so . I think there is a causal process that makes information integrate that is external to brains, that ultimately crates brains, that ...

Yes, Information is something irreducible, and ultimate. Rather godlike, but entirely physical, for a monist at least.

Ha, Ha. It does seem a little like that. But I am describing something physical.

Experience. We trust in experience above all other information?

If function follows form, there is a causality at play. You don't elaborate much so I have to guess what you mean precisely but I think we are roughly...

I would assume that all thoughts have their neural correlates. So the map of the territory is a physical pattern that exists in a brain. The source of...

Awesome!

Thanks for the great post. I believe you would say, like the information philosopher, that information can be abstracted from the substance, and this ...

Sure. But I am only vaguely familiar with it, so will be relying on you to explain it.

If we can capture that complexity in a singular concept such as information, then we can deal with the enormous complexity quite simply.

I think so, but I'm not at all certain, so am looking for counterarguments. What exists is the evolution of informational structure, and humanity is t...

Sounds like "form" to me.

I don't see it as incoherent nonsense at all. I just wish you would provide some answers rather then further questions - I'm already drowning in those...

How would you define the observer? I would say the observer is a concept enmeshed in the informational content of consciousness. Not very humanizing I...

I'm not sure I follow. Can you elaborate please?

Is a black hole a paradox? In Hawking's original formulation of his radiation process, that radiation carried no information away with it. But as the ...

Form, in its broadest sense, is what interacts. Function follows form. When one Wavicle interacts with another, their information ( frequency and ampl...

I mostly agree with your statement, but what is the evolutionary path, and underlying mechanism that causes this to be so?

On further consideration, you are correct, strictly speaking, the message ( transmission ) contains the information that we receive, and it is likely ...

Information makes it all possible. Your version provides no reason. As a singular substance, nothing would be possible. But as distinct quantities wit...

I would have said everything is information, rather then nothing.

I feel similarly. It is the primal stuff, as a co-element of any stuff. But it is so hard to pin down. If you have a simple definition I would be inte...

I think what you are talking about is transmitted information? The only way for us to know a substance is through the information the substance posses...

Whilst neurotransmitters have an effect on moods, they are not moods themselves. Moods are a function of consciousness, they exist regardless of the l...

I have to go now, but I will make a thread on information in the next few days, so perhaps we can take it up again there. I think Joshs covered it wel...

Emotions and concepts are not miscible. There is no agreement as to what emotions are. I have a theory, but so do many others. The issue as I see it, ...

Yes, we have discussed IIT. The pattern is one aspect of consciousness. There is also a force acting on the neurological patterning. The form the patt...

Initially I missed your point. Yes, I would say the scene around you and your neural states are the same thing. And this is what is so fascinating, an...

You are making choices, and they are often aesthetic choices. You can make your garden as you personally would like to see it, or you can make it to c...

This is the difference between good art and bad art. Not so much a matter of artworthiness, but a matter of whether that communication took effect, an...

Exactly. That is precisely what I'm trying to get at. In some sense the pattern in one mind becomes a pattern in another mind, and If it resonates sim...

This relates to what @"Joshs" is saying above and what Shannon calls entropy of information. The information that is understood is in some way already...

Yes, that is true. Nevertheless the work is always presented within a structure, and is symbolic of the artist's mind activity, and so as structured i...

There isn't a clear and simple definition of information. I am using the Platonic kind - the perturbation of a substance is information about it. How ...

Yes, I've been meaning to do a "What is information thread", but time is a little constrained at the moment. Perhaps on the weekend.

Information was moved. Information always exists as, and travels over, a physical substrate - as the perturbations of the substrate. The perturbations...

I think you have the gist of it. It makes no sense to infer a mind independent object, since we can never encounter them , since we need to construe (...

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In considering issues like this, I have come to the conclusion that information organizes on its own. That information is self organizing due to the a...

It's so disappointing isn't it? I cannot see any near term solutions. But theoretically, the entropy build up should create even greater molecular com...

I think I understand what you mean - in a sense you are saying there is no mind independent object, and all this thinking about it never leaves mind. ...

:up: I like that explanation.

In Yogic logic, one of the practices is to turn thought off completely. Such a mental state is surprisingly innately pleasant, for me at least. Walkin...