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:smile: :up: :sad: This is what the Mass-energy-information equivalence principle tells us. The question is. How is "anything" different to informatio...

:up: Yes that would do it. Yes I agree. I also see the Anthropic principle as doing much the same thing. As you say it is a guess, but it fits so logi...

Well I would love to hear how it could work without neural correlates. And at the same time what is the purpose of all this energy zapping baggage bet...

Thanks for that. My question would be, If consciousness was possible in the quantum state, why the need for matter?

Sorry, I missed this. There is no agreement as to what emotions are. There are many theories. One thing that is generally agreed upon is that emotions...

Yeah. Maybe so. In some sense a mind kind of sits behind a sensing / receiver unit, noting differences in its state. The differences are information. ...

Yes. without that form, there would be no information. It is the fact that something has form, that allows us to interact with it. The form changes th...

Yes, that is right. The process is Form > interaction > change > form > interaction > change..........on and on. I am assuming neural correlates to al...

This is true, but we have to describe it somehow. There are certain attributes necessary before information can take place, such as form, interaction,...

So good to get some relevant engagement. Exactly, everything is information ( something singular ) that has many forms. You cited the mass-energy-info...

I must take blame. It is a challenge to follow the story given all of the irrelevant posts. Perhaps I'll start another thread. :lol: A lot of evidence...

Information always exists embedded in a substance, as the perturbations of a substance. Thoughts have their neural correlates. There is no evidence of...

What do you think of this as a definition of information? "Information enables the interaction of form"

The first thing we need is a definition of information, so we can all be certain we are talking about the same thing. I think we might just have one n...

A system has its properties, perturbations, characteristics without which it couldn't be recognized and distinguished from other systems. These proper...

I'm glad to hear it. :up: It is intuitive to think of mind as something immaterial, but it can also be described as something electrical. This way we ...

I think you are really talking form here. The form a system possesses interacts with the form of another system to effect a mutual change in form? But...

This is good. :up: So, for information to occur, these are the requirements: 1. Form 2. Interaction 3. Change 4. Can anybody add to this?

Sorry that must have been confusing. I'm trying to define information, and you said something that made me realize that information is causal. In moni...

I think you have been very tactful and kind. Thank you. On reading back on my comments I can see I led @"Possibility" astray a little in not emphasizi...

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I'm glad your back. Yes, I have tried to encourage something of the sort, but these threads are "self organizing" it seems. :lol: I would like to defi...

That was one of a variety of definitions presented in the OP. I believe you are quoting @"Enrique" there. I believe information always has a physical ...

Thanks for that. I'll look into it. This is the view of enactivism, which I appropriate in my understanding. There are parallels between yogic underst...

People interpret metaphysics differently. For me, it is the underlying logic that enables subsequent construction. Wave theory, QM, etc are metaphysic...

No, consciousness is whole. It is integrated whole information. We cannot slice that in half. Note, the external world is represented by neural patter...

:up: We cannot extract ourselves. The exchange and ourselves, to some extent, become one. Information is that which gives us form, and our most recent...

That information has to be in the mix is well recognized in Zeilingers quantum randomness and information: abstract: , "in 1999, one of us (A.Z.) has ...

Semantic information is already a constructed meaningful informational structure. Further information has to fit this established structure in order t...

I'm sure you could find a way :lol: Information creates meaning, through a construction of form - Lego brick by Lego brick. The only context "informat...

Perhaps a theory of meaning can be your baby?

Information and meaning are kind of similar. Meaning occurs when information fits already established ( informational) structure. And all structures a...

- excellent! Meaning in this sense occurs when the information fits already existing information? ** Sorry, I think you have already answered this. Th...

The diagram is excellent, thank you. The intersection is the relationship of two systems exchanging information. The systems are mutually changed in h...

Information literally changes our form ( neural correlates ) . But we have to understand this in terms of constructivism, so it is a build up of form....

Does the above assertion make sense?

It simplifies things enormously. It does not violate either, as far as I can see?

Pragmatic information theory is far simplar and intuitive, I think. We can always trackback and see if we violate Shannon theory later?

The way information works in the Enactive world To some extent the "self" readingtheseFUNNYwordsbecomes identical to them, in the moment of reading th...

This is Shannon. In Pragmatic information theory only the information that gets cognized is information. I think this will be more useful for describi...

This is the trend in biology also. Particularly cellular biology. To understand life information has to become an observable non measurable quantity -...

Information is causal!! Rocks have their neural correlates, because information is causal ! I think we are getting somewhere?

They have a life of their own. :smile: Yeah. I would say deterministic with a slight element of randomness - is the determinism we are seeing?

I think you are referring to what occurs within a moment of consciousness. Yes, there is still controversy about what exactly occurs within the proces...

Precisely. :up: you are a dark horse! :smile: The way I understand it. The "contrast" of one moment of consciousness ( state of integrated information...

I've found my own understanding creeps along and changes as new information becomes available. Currently I'm recalibrating idealism in light of enacti...

The way you have set it out is similar to the approach in Integrated Information theory. PHI is what measures the amount of integrated information. It...

Mind and consciousness are rather vague terms with variable meaning in each end user. To overcome this I have accepted that integrated information is ...

:up: You are on the right track, and I need help to define it @"Daniel " has disappeared. I'm looking for a definition of information befitting an ena...

weak And even weaker. You do not have to believe this, cannot believe this, in one big gulp. But you can stop for a moment and admire its theoretical ...