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Yep. The pages of analysis on your other thread amount to nothing, for you.
February 07, 2025 at 00:44
But yes, I did intend it as a pejorative. Your triggers are not my responsibility? Ah, I see you made the same point.
February 07, 2025 at 00:42
Presumably any substantive critique of this new paper will also be ignored.
February 07, 2025 at 00:41
Good thing you'd never engage in anything so rude, then.
February 07, 2025 at 00:38
That they accept and move on with life doesn't mean that they are not awed by thunder or enraptured by a sunrise. But problems happen when folk think ...
February 06, 2025 at 23:43
Yep. Hence Quine's holism, rather than pragmatism.
February 06, 2025 at 23:37
Yep. Indeed, the unsayable is the most important stuff - as Wittgenstein showed. And what cannot be said, may sometimes be shown. But the less said he...
February 06, 2025 at 23:36
There's a difference between being able to explain truth in terms of satisfaction, and truth not making sense outside of satisfaction. You accuse me o...
February 06, 2025 at 23:33
To be clear, these are two different things. extensionality is the logical decision to count two sets that contain the very same items as the very sam...
February 06, 2025 at 23:15
Yep. Thereby hangs many a thread.
February 06, 2025 at 01:15
There are accounts of primates looking at waterfalls and rainbows in apparent awe. And elephant funereal rituals. And the cat hides from thunder in ob...
February 06, 2025 at 01:07
They had a use, yes. To my eye the arguments about animals, such as as those in the recent Davidson thread, somewhat misfire. Doing stuff comes first,...
February 06, 2025 at 00:36
Isn't what seems to count as an insect part of what we do with the word "insect"? So yes, what seems to count as an insect can inform how we use the w...
February 06, 2025 at 00:27
Probably worth noting that neither Quine nor Davidson would agree with "What is useful determines what is true". Nor Banno, for that matter.
February 06, 2025 at 00:12
Then there is a discussion supposing a form of incommensurability. The upshot is that understanding the argument as a proof of god's existence require...
February 05, 2025 at 23:13
See above. Extensionality is not a theory of reference.
February 05, 2025 at 21:27
@"Count Timothy von Icarus" Extensionality was introduced in this discussion because the theory that a name refers to whatever it's speaker intends it...
February 05, 2025 at 21:24
That you suggest this might be understood to indicate a lack of familiarity with the argument. No. Have another look at https://medium.com/@ranjanrgia...
February 05, 2025 at 21:18
No, "gavagai" refers to the set of all gavagai. Quine was asking whether that set is the very same as the set of rabbits. That's the bit that is inscr...
February 05, 2025 at 21:07
On to the next bit of §5. There's a bit of waffle about Catholics being able to talk about pagan gods. Then Klima concedes the point made earlier conc...
February 05, 2025 at 20:21
Why include "qualify over" here? The axiom is 5:?A???A, where A might or might not be a quantification. If you want us to consider "Floridi", then lin...
February 05, 2025 at 19:18
Again, this seems to me, quite honestly, to be all over the place. So this: Why are we now talking about life? Is your position now that essence is so...
February 05, 2025 at 19:05
The Age, Melbourne's and Nine Entertainment's main paper, has as it's headline Continuing with It doesn't look like Trump's gambit will carry much sup...
February 05, 2025 at 07:28
Isn't that a bit petty? Ok, adult insects have six legs. I've already pointed to this short coming, and how it doesn't seem to help those who think in...
February 05, 2025 at 04:50
Well, no it isn't, but if it were, then that might be a good thing. Each of the three points you list is fraught with complexity. As such, they will n...
February 05, 2025 at 04:34
https://chatgpt.com/share/67a2daa7-2c28-800f-a827-6ca73e18cb24
February 05, 2025 at 03:27
Interesting approach. I'd suggest rather that Davidson would say reference has a function only within broader theories of truth (or meaning), and ther...
February 05, 2025 at 03:00
It's just another realestate opportunity...
February 05, 2025 at 02:00
That's a misrepresentation of the argument. In S5, if there is a necessary being than every being is necessary. You can find the argument online, or a...
February 05, 2025 at 01:52
The thread became entangled in animal intelligence, a garden path, to my eye. Where are you now? Any thoughts?
February 05, 2025 at 01:36
So the new plan is to turn the Gaza Strip into a 'Mercan playground for the rich? Shit's gonna fly.
February 05, 2025 at 01:32
:up: I agree with that. The point is that the questioner succeeds in picking out Socrates uniquely, and this despite not having a definite description...
February 05, 2025 at 01:13
I don't see what to make of this except as saying that there is stuff. So, yes. And folk want to say more, but as soon as they do, there are all sorts...
February 05, 2025 at 00:53
I have trouble seeing a connection between dependency and modality. Yes, it is. SO the question is clear, and the referent fixed - the question is abo...
February 05, 2025 at 00:01
Well, in S5 that would lead to everything being necessary. Much as Spinoza concluded. But that's not a theistic god. It seems pantheism is more logica...
February 04, 2025 at 22:33
Dragging this back to the OP... There need not be some property understood to apply to and only to Gavagai in order for the word to be understood and ...
February 04, 2025 at 22:26
That was Kripke. He kinda used the word a whole lot. Meanwhile, the elephant sits patiently, waiting....
February 04, 2025 at 22:09
You made that claim, then immediately quoted and addressed my argument. :smile:
February 04, 2025 at 22:08
, you two need to talk... :wink:
February 04, 2025 at 21:58
Presuming we may now talk about §5, Returning to 'parasitic' reference, which is apparently where the fool refers to the thought object in the mind of...
February 04, 2025 at 21:57
The notion of god is inconsistent. Anything follows from an inconsistency. Therefore Jesus is God.
February 04, 2025 at 21:47
And we might well chose to go either way. There is no fact of the matter, only how useful it is for us to talk one way or the other. I'd be inclined t...
February 04, 2025 at 20:59
I don't see these responses helping much. A metaphorical use is different to a literal use. Calling your ex an insect works becasue of the literal use...
February 04, 2025 at 20:40
Well, yes, as I said, it's not a great example. We might get out our CRISPR and re-arrange the genetics of a fruit fly so that it has an extra body se...
February 04, 2025 at 19:52
Sticking to the example, which isn't a great one, insects have six legs. Now will we count that as a bit of ontology, in that having six legs is a spe...
February 04, 2025 at 03:50
Sure. I've argued similar points at length, elsewhere. There is gold in those hills, even if no one knows about it. "What counts as an insect" is much...
February 04, 2025 at 02:50
Yeah, it sure would be., Who says that?
February 04, 2025 at 02:41
Yep. Tim seems to be advocating some form of species essentialism, in which species are static groups with inherent essences. See the conversation wit...
February 04, 2025 at 02:39