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If you have trouble deciding, I'll do it for you.

One might think so, but this is not what happened in the realism/antirealism argument. No solution was found, no one side was shown to be discredited....

Might be. Might be. An argument is variously a quarrel or a line of reasoning, and sometimes both. And sometimes the quarrel concerns a difference tha...

Yep. That she feels cold is not a matter of opinion. Not even her own - she's just cold. Further, that I judge that she feels cold is a seperate issue...

Perhaps when someone thinks you and I have the same instinct about this, that there's really one shared human perspective, but say the same thing in d...

He wasn't that bad... :wink: Since we got here from that paper, there must be a path from there to here. Somethign to do with this, perhaps: Or is thi...

Have you said more here than that to assert "the cat is on the mat" is to assert that "the cat is on the mat" is true? Not seeing it. The judgment str...

What has any of this to do with the topic of this thread - an account of the distinction between having a philosophy and doing philosophy? Can someone...

What has any of this to do with the topic of this thread, which is a specific paper by Williamson? Can someone relate it back to the theme?

Better, perhaps, not to use "proposition" here at all. The philosopher's finesse is usually to move from sentence to statement to assertion, although ...

Well said. 's point perhaps stands, in that the judgement (belief, act of making an assertion) can be seen as an association between the speaker and t...

Both are second level predications, perhaps. Both have the form X(the cat is on the mat), or X(p) were p is a proposition. But they are payed out in v...

To be recognised, there must be a pattern... Duck-rabbits and frog-horses - is it really a duck, really a frog? No, it's a Duck-rabbits and it's a fro...

See this again: Is it hot or cold? Or is it undecidable? Or is it just shit we made up? None of these quite work.

My mention of aesthetics wasn't so much about style as about what we admire.

well, ask a silly question... We could all go learn some physics?

Yeah, there's two views here that might seem antithetical. The one is that there are ordered laws of nature, and they are there becasue god said so. N...

I'm pleased you understood my argument.

Is it? "Due to..." that is The law of gravity governs the motion of the planets? Does the law cause the movement of the planets? How can a law cause s...

And Picasso was regressive; he was no more than a variation on Cézanne.

Some shit we made up might even be true. The question is, how do you decide which is which? Yes, fair enough. Others will situate him, of course, but ...

No, Kripke didn't use "textbook analytic philosophy". Where traditional analytic philosophy (especially mid-20th century varieties influenced by logic...

Excellent example. Well, it's clear enough that Russell and the later Wittgenstein disagreed; could they resolve the dispute? Curious that Russell put...

Seems to me as examining "the nature of our subjective comportment toward the world such that it makes possible the invention of abstractions which le...

Did I misunderstand you here? I had understood that this was becasue of the topic, not the degree of formality... I think I'm having trouble with the ...

I think this is pretty much it.

Ok, and that, in so far as it goes, is not a poor position to adopt? So regardless of Williamson's odd metaphysical notions, we might have some agreem...

Perhaps it will suffice to be disciplined enough. If you and I agree, will that suffice?

Thanks for that. Interesting. Relative and absolute senses. She will be huddled under blankets while I am comfortable in my tee shirt. But we at least...

thought Williamson didn't go far enough in naming names.

Excellent post. Yes, one cannot write without writing rhetorically. It's no depreciation of the paper to point out that it is rhetorical or aesthetic.

...discourse and dissection. So I'll go back to the suggested demarcation criteria, that we stop just making shit up when we start dissecting, and tha...

So from Williamson's standpoint, @"Joshs" is doing bad philosophy—obscure, unstructured, and unconcerned with convergence or clarity. But from a Heide...

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Sure. But absent good will, and there is no hope at all.

Williamson finishes by explicitly acknowledging that his own essay does not meet the criteria it advocates. He couldn't, becasue the essay is not an a...

But is that admirable? It could also be seen as a mere dog-whistle to those who would think of themselves as part of an intellectual elite, pretending...

Without agreed-upon constraints, philosophical debates become dominated by style, authority, and local jargon—each little sub-school operating as a fi...

It went down hill from soon after the opening post, a result of the contributions of those who could not abide what that post said.

Thank you.

The paragraph, at the top of page sixteen, on the aesthetics of definitions is harder to follow. An example might have helped. The criticism of Dummet...

Onward. The thoughts at the bottom of page fifteen parallel those I have expressed elsewhere in terms of completeness and coherence. It is easy to con...

Cheers. Worth noting. Here I am reading the text as a more general critique and defence of analytic method - I think that's how @"Srap Tasmaner" inten...

I agree. How do you ground that? It seems a hollow accusation, given the ambiguity of "world". What, exactly, is "being concealed, forgotten , ignored...

Yep. Convergence is not itself normative, so this idea is problematic. Perhaps his point can be seen as pragmatic, that convergence, many folk working...

Excellent question. Long answer, again. The original aim was to provide a foundation for maths in logic. This was not entirely dropped as a result of ...

Yep. Thanks.

The next few pages - from the bottom of page twelve - become more explicit about methodology. There's a suggestion from Grice that good philosophers a...

See the edit. Thanks for pointing out the lack of clarity.

That's not what is suggested. Even if there were a platonic form, deciding to conform to the form is making a normative choice.