Banno

Cheers.

I'd love someone to count ad homs here - who would be winning, you or I??

It's 'cause I get bored with pointing out the the same problems. "intersubjective" presumes the primacy of the subject. That's a basic error, as shown...

So for me Kenny is saying there is no warrant, and you want he and I to set out what that warrant would be...? Can you answer your own question for me...

:grin: Ah - but if the theist is correct, then it is about the immortal soul of the atheist as much as the theist...

Enough. The purpose of the article was to provide something firm from which to work. If you are not interested in leaving a few crumbs to support your...

That's a bucket that will carry no water.

SO go back to the article, and let's see if we can locate the point of difference - because this is getting nowhere. p.395. Do you agree that in the a...

A useless post. Read the quote.

I wouldn't use "inter-subjective" - too much wrongheaded baggage. My suspicion is that there is a difference here as to what is involved in "warrant"....

What? As in, would you mind going back and setting out what you are saying, 'cause you lost me. Edit: Do you agree that in the article, Kenny is setti...

Nuh. If the point is moot, why the argument?

Well, apparently, nothing... that's the issue.

So you wish to say that you are confident without warrant... Fine. It's the "without warrant" part that is salient here. Here's the argument in the ar...

A true Scotsman will simply say "That's not essential to being Scots!". See the problem? Ah. So it's a beetle in a box - no not even that, since we ca...

The argument that it is only this or that religion that is subject to @"creativesoul"'s criticism is special pleading. It remains that Christianity ma...

...and true Scotsmen.

...but of course, this is nonsense. Recognition requires the "all of this" that was suspended; SO phenomenology must fail. Phenomenology is not medita...

...or is it that you failed to express your point clearly?

...and there's your problem.

Clearly, he is showing tradition insufficient.

Well... that's what the article is about. "mere belief in God may be reasonable even if false" Why mere? Because he is distinguishing belief from fait...

Ah, defending your abuser... interesting.

Why isn't that shifting the topic? No, he's referring to faith. He doesn't mention tradition. "God said 'fear', but meant 'trust'"...? Not convincing.

How is this not unquestioning obedience to authority? Gen 22:12

Then address this:

Faith is acceptance of an authority - a text or community. Faith is irrevocable; merit comes from belief despite the evidence. Faith runs counter to t...

This agrees with what I said; yet...

A curious non sequitur. Did I say something you didn't like? My critique was pretty specific; can you articulate your concern?

I'm thinking that's becasue we don't do the maths.

And this: Moving beyond exegesis, faith places the faithful beyond reasonable discourse. They are to believe regardless of the evidence, and follow th...

Seems to me the discussion went astray here: As a matter of exegesis, Kenny is not saying faith is not unreasonable; he is saying that faith and reaso...

Cats only meow at humans; not at other cats. They reserve that part of their language for inter-species communication.

"The wonder turns to shocking revelation that there is no foundation to our existence, and nihilism asserts itself" - only for those with time on thei...

All that is of interest now is how the Senate will vote; this will tell us how broken democracy is in 'merica. Just how cowardly are the GOP?

When frustrated, go back to the article and try again. There's still plenty of exegesis and critique to be done.

Yep.

In his biography of Wittgenstein, Monk is at pains to point out that what is unsaid is of the utmost importance. The unspoken becomes the subject of d...

The divide between past and future is intrinsic to our being. The attitude of dread, not so much. Sometimes there is joy in that divide. Alienation, d...

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What is said here implies that living as a depressive is as much living as a pawn of affect as any alternative. There's a deep irrationality in thinki...

Ah, so your argument is that changes that occur over time require time... That looks cogent. :worry: :down:

Watch raindrops, sliding down a window. One plus one equals one.

Not so fast. The floor changes from wood to tile between here and the laundry. Change requires a dimension, perhaps...

twaddle. The invaders were everything from Democrats to Mexicans.

“The establishment is stopping me from protecting you against invaders.” The theme that Trump used throughout his political career, simply varying who...

Force is mass times acceleration. Energy is half the mass times the square of velocity. Power is force times distance, and power is work over time. Th...

...I think that is what is in contention.

Kenny criticises Dawkins for treating belief in god as "a scientific hypothesis like any other". He presents arguments from Newman, Wittgenstein and P...

...Indic cosmology as equivalent to the multiple universes conjecture. Cute. I've Confirmable and influential Metaphysics in mind - faith as a haunted...