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I don't think he is sugesting this is a good thing....

In the 'post-American world', has Australia backed the right global superpower? Stan Grant disappointed at another lost opportunity.

My contention that Christianity was largely responsible for the destruction of classical literature, and culture generally, is that presented by Gibbo...

Yea you did, by putting your comment in my quote: ...and so Christianity did not destroy classical literature. Is that your argument?

Pretty sure I didn't say that. Reich was a Psychceramicist.

The OP is such obvious special pleading it doesn't warrant a reply. But Ciceronianius is worth reading. I actually hadn't read that until just then, w...

That, too.

Just for you:

Sure; but the point stands.

I find it often dishonest. I also think it presumes a morality it has often not demonstrated.

The Egyptians - that was your story, no? Set my people free and all that. I dunno - I'm trying to address an argument that has so far not been present...

Cheers. The jews were not tolerated because they would not accept the other gods - isn't that it? that is, because they were intolerant. Yep. Yet the ...

SO the argument here is; King was tolerant; hence all Christians are tolerant?

I had taken you to be referring to Amenhotep. Hmm. Looks to be supporting my contention rather than refuting it.

A link is not an argument - nor even a claim. What do you want me to see here?

You've lost me. Where did this slavery involve religious persecution?

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Why slavery? What do you wish me to see?

Tell me the story about intolerance in Egypt. Let's take a look. Who persecuted who?

Christianity in the fourth and fifth century went out of its way to destroy temples and burn books; not just religious texts but all philosophical tex...

Meh. Make my time here worthwhile. Give me a decent reply. I'm going outside.

Sure. It was the first to achieve political power, in late Rome, and to unleash the logical consequence of monotheism - the repression of alternatives...

Ask Hypatia.

Ok, I really should go and do some gardening, but let's look at §244. The question. is posited - how do words refer to sensations? Now I read §244 as ...

Intolerance is a Christian invention.

You asked about reference.

Christianity got there first. It's a consequence of the intolerance inherent in monotheism.

A common philosophical error is to assume that a grammar implies a state of affairs. In the phone example, the similarity of grammar is taken to imply...

Enlightenment does not come from seeing the duck as a rabbit, but from seeing that it can be seen as either a duck or a rabbit.

I did. Leading horses to water and so on. How's that? :wink:

Here's a thing: I think is would be a mistake to think of him as setting out an argument for a particulate conclusion. Instead I think he is presentin...

Seems you missed it. Oh, well.

Discussions of the argument usually get stuck - as this one - in explaining it. It'd be interesting to move on to critiquing it.

Sure. So what do you think the topic is here?

Indeed. This sub-thread is in reply to your post: Do you see it now?

@"Sam26" Have you read the SEP article? I think it rather clear on the topic - but then I sympathise with Kenny's account. I particularly like the con...

Not happy with that sort of language. Wash your mouth out. What about the pain in @"Sam26"'s toe, and the tree in his yard? What do you know of them?

Yep. No is to what one believes. The best we can do is an ought. And that's were the empiricists and pragmatists fall down.

Well, yes - and hence drops out of the discussion. Unlike a tree. That is rather the point.

Both are expressions. As opposed to names. Yes. Pain-talk is primarily expressive, but has a superficial resemblance to reference talk, to naming. Tha...

If we all had a pain in your toe, then that pain would be like the tree. We don't, so it ain't.

Indeed. The trouble here is of course that what counts as a suitable observation is already theoretical - already an interpretation. Observations thus...

And this because of the active repression of Stoic ideas by Christians - the tragedy of their rise is the destruction of the literature and art of ant...

Moot in it's more original sense - a disagreement to which we might return as the need arrises, but in which we should not allow ourselves to be mired...

Did you read the rest of ?244? I used it, above. It supports my view. The line you quote is the foil for bringing down the notion of reference. See th...

I'll maintain that we are referring to the hand, and expressing the pain. But I think it a moot point. Where are you heading with this thread? We've d...

The OP if fatuous. The main argument for lockdown is that it prevents a steep rise in cases that would overload the health system. We've seen it work ...

Automatic vehicles cannot cope with the unusual. Wheelchair users will often turn the chair around to go up small inclines. An automatic vehicle recen...

Oh, no not at all. I agree with you. The referent in "I have a pain in my hand" is my hand, not the pain. Yes, it's real. So is the beetle. ?293 takes...

Grattan on Friday: Porter’s funding from a ‘blind trust’ is an integrity test for Morrison Here's what will happen: A few weeks from now someone will ...