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Interesting to link this to the trouble @"Michael" had with keeping his promises. I'm not sure of your diagnosis, though.

@"Michael" wants there to be a something that is the same in his dreams and hallucinations as in his more lucid moments, in order to explain his use o...

I did? Where? I'd like the context. Here's the OP: No mention of "appearance" in that. Indeed the use of quotes indicates that attention be paid to th...

Oh, I quite agree. Odd that you think this worthy of mention. Seems to be the same misunderstanding as Amadeus. All the more reason not to take an ana...

Yep. "colour" has different senses. But that is not what I am pointing out to you. I am pointing out that "red", in the sense of the colour word, does...

"Morning star" is a definite description, functioning as a proper name. it picks out an individual. Colour words are not proper names. They do not pic...

Well, no, it isn't. The colour red of a sunset is not the very same as the colour red of the sports car out on the street. Or, if you must have it thi...

, , you are addressing something vastly different to what I have written.

, thanks for your reflections. I'd ask you to note that the notion of the noumena is not my invention - I didn't put the beetle in the box. The odd th...

How do you know this to be so? Why do you think that there must be a something, which is the thing "colour" refers to? Why shouldn't we use the same w...

Here's the initial question: And here is my initial answer: and then: I've since added that there is nothing in the physiological accounts offered her...

Why?

The SEP article on colour is worth a read.

Down to one cat, the wrong one. Otherwise, chooks are well and wife prospers. Coming out of winter now, starting to see the flowers. Grew capsicums an...

Sounds like you are living well.

Cheers...

That's wisdom. The trouble with making stuff up about god is that the story quickly becomes inconsistent. The way to treat those who claim to know stu...

And what do you think are the problems with this view?

Especially now we all use keyboards anyway. It's a shame that we can't type in red here.

yet It follows that we don't know any of the properties of the pen. But we do know the properties of the pen. We know it is plastic, cylindrical, has ...

I want to take this a step further. I suspect we will agree that you can be sure, at least sometimes, that we can be confident the colour people see i...

Most of metaphysics is word play. As if saying "(red) is not a property of the pen itself" were not word-play. What does "itself" do here, if not to i...

No, it isn't. But perhaps you can't bring yourself to see that, because your faith depends on it. If the world is already just, then there could be no...

How's that? If I put 4 and not 3 together, it looks as if you believe that there are mind-independent micro-structural properties that are not respons...

Ah - define... so what, setting out essence-of-pen? "Comprised" of redness? Nothing so sophisticated. Just one red pen amongst others, red and not so ...

That there are circumstances in with each fails. Yep.

But the pen looks red to me, too. And given the right filter we might make the red pen look blue... which pen? The red pen. The red pen looks blue. No...

Ok. So for Hanover, "the pen is red" is not true. I think it is.

I guess it has to be pointed out that "internal" and "external" are not the very same as "subjective" and "objective", and neither is the same as "pri...

Yep. Nuh. If it were nothing but a percept, how do you explain our agreement? Perhaps by something like "intersubjective agreement"? Which is just to ...

Yep. I think his idea derives from opposing subjective and objective, something that isn't all that helpful.

. How do you know your memory is sufficient? Because you remember? Somewhat circular, don't you think? You know Wittgenstein used the term "grammar" m...

Ok, let's follow through on this. One possibility would be to recreate the neural pattern in the hand of the victim in your hand. But that could be de...

Let's go over it again. The world is not fair and just. We can make it more fair and just. Proposing a god who makes the world fair and just both deni...

Quite a bit. If your "mental percepts" are individual, in your mind only and unsharable, then they are tantamount to the private sensation "S" used by...

Thanks for the response. You seem to be pretty much agreeing with what I've said.

Cool.

This deserves its own response. Fear of divine judgement is a way of ensuring your conformity. Not sure what this means. Would you be willing to go ag...

Good. I don't think you have addressed the main line of thought here. That is, that if one thinks the world is just, despite the evidence to the contr...

. Believing that life is fair might make you a terrible person Some further problems then: is an unjust god worthy of worship? And ought you do as an ...

Pretty much.

Yes, it closes itself off form further investigation, safely ensconcing the victim in theological cotton wool.

Also, there are unfair things not caused by human action - tsetse fly, child cancer. These are not so easily explained by free will. That the world mu...

Yep, a belief we have in common. Cheers.

So you want to demonstrate that god exists, and that therefore the world must be fair and just. But the world is not fair and just. Therefore you are ...

Frank, how do you know that we do have "similar experiences of redness and pain"? How else than by our common, shared talk of what is around us?

So not sophistic enough for your taste?

Why should we care? At the least, in a philosophy forum, you might provide some sort of support for your beliefs. Otherwise, we can point out that lif...

Cheers. There is a famous argument called the beetle in a box, from Wittgenstein. What gives our words stability is their place in our common, shared ...

The analogy fails. , and . If you have a red pen in your hand, you can pass the red pen to me. If you have a pain in your hand, you cannot pass the pa...