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True. This is more of a personal project for me, with the understanding that some of these (to me) subtle differences may be 'writ large' in other seg...

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Sure. I've been pondering this recently in conjunction with my thread on belief and posted just such an example there. Max Scheler says : "The mind it...

Can you explain about Agrippa? As for the willingness to accept flattery, that is a rock-solid example of the desire to believe something, which I thi...

Exactly. Fundamental beliefs are deeply embedded. I do believe in or have a deep intuition of the transcendence of consciousness. I had lots of stress...

:up: Yes, I mentioned that also, I do think if we excavate deeply enough we come to this point.

I'm a huge believer in the ideas of Popper, but both beliefs and knowledge are fundamental to what it means to be human. When you translate beliefs an...

Interesting. I like the last especially, "risk, and a commitment." I'd have to concur with not over-emphasizing the importance of propositional knowle...

Let me give a personal example. We use our mind to observe reality and thereby formulate hypotheses and arguments. But our minds are themselves probab...

Hmmm. I think what we are talking about here orbits around the way that beliefs begin as vaguely intuited and hypothetical and gradually evolve into e...

Yes, just so. I think the biggest battle is the one we fight with our own preconceptions. The fact that background beliefs become pre-judicative makes...

I'd agree that we may have false beliefs, which is why as a good Cartesian, I strive to work from a position of not committing to a belief precipitous...

Hmmm. Excellent example. I had an almost identical experience. A local lawyer, 6 foot 6 and a real prick, did the exact same thing to me a few years a...

I'd concur with this assessment, but my personal perspective is that philosophy is ultimately validated by its re-integration into the scope of the in...

Everything is ultimately psychological (subjective). I'd say it is a 'psycho-philosophical' question....

I don't know. I try to put myself in this position and evaluate my own beliefs based on this proposed methodology, I guess a phenomenological analysis...

Per my 'catalog,' there appears to be quite a variety of conditions of beliefs. What I have in mind is to discover whether there may be a lot of peopl...

What about if, as a cost of taking the pill, you could also no longer post on TPF ever again, or discuss philosophy with anyone?

And when questions are definitively answered they cease to be instrumental and influential in our lives and become part of a pre-reflectively shared b...

I think these so-called philosophical mysteries represent directions of inquiry and effort. Each of which in itself has meaning and application within...

On Feeling, Knowing, and Valuing by Max Scheler

The Complete Stories by Franz Kafka edit: for a really interesting excursion into the social mechanics of epistemology the short story "The Village Sc...

This doesn't follow at all. People routinely do things they think will make them happy and end up doing themselves more harm than good. I doubt very m...

I think objective knowledge is a valid ideal.

See, I'd interpret that more as relativism, while pluralism acknowledges the fundamental plurality of our collective reality. Pluralism seems more des...

It's odd that pluralism is readily accepted as a hallmark of a modern or post-modern society, while relativism consistently figures in controversial a...

I'm currently reading some of Max Scheler's lesser-known works (as much of his work is). He matter-of-facts God as a correlate or adjunct of higher co...

Nice.

I think the fact of a belief being validated by its actions is about the apex of intersubjective verifiability, don't you? Unless your are talking abo...

That belief is deeply embedded in action is not a generally held position? Thanks for the tip. You might want to enlighten the advocates of embodied/e...

Well, does one have to be epistemologically sophisticated in order to assess and hence justify the validity of one's own beliefs? If so, I wonder how ...

I assumed you were distinguishing between necessary and contingent truths, except I never made mention of the word "necessary." So I am not sure what ...

Yes. And philosophy shouldn't be just for philosophers, should it?

I think you are inferring the special usage of "necessary," but it wasn't used.

Scheler says that metaphysics involves the understanding of "the supreme finite fact," the most incredible thing which the universe reveals to us, the...

This is my own position with respect to that specific approach of his. I (or anyone else) can argue compelling reasons not on his list because they ha...

Again, it was strictly a hypothetical, "if you believe in strong AI and if you also believe in atheism" then those positions lead to contradictory con...

I didn't say that god exists. I said that something that can be described as "the creator of consciousness" possibly exists to the same extent that yo...

Unless you happen to believe in strong AI. Which Daniel Dennett demonstrably does. And his 'no good reasons for believing' foundational argument expli...

Wrong thread for this. Sorry. I shouldn't have rambled.

Could be. How does that relate to what I'm proposing? I am discussing beliefs qua beliefs, which may or may not accurately represent the mechanisms in...

Exactly. They are equally possible.

No?

No, it is premised as the position of a Strong AI proponent that consciousness can be created, that's all. It is a hypothetical, applicable in the cas...

Not before only, because.

What is the ultimate currency, the ultimate validation of belief to the believer? You should feel the sense that your belief, your philosophy, is shap...

Yes, I am reasoning backwards in that thread, Hypothetically, if the belief that AI is possible is not un-selfcontradictory, then our consciousness mu...

If consciousness can be created intentionally, then our consciousness could have been created intentionally. All it does is put the concept of god on ...

Yes. Scheler even describes a scenario in which the ultimate counterfactual (that the principle of non-contradiction is false) can be proven true base...

I'd like to provide some more details on Scheler's "more radical" version of the transcendental reduction if you are interested Jack. I'm not sure the...