Depends... Is my garden a world without language? And calling a part of it a tree is correct because it is, independent of language? So implicit conve...
Sure. But, a world independent of language? So don't blame me... But clearly something has gone wrong, as the things that a language (or other symbol ...
Haha, ok forget about Weiner, and this ill-conceived thread. From that you have retained the Cabanis quote and hope to use it to mock (now that you se...
Fine, so Wiener used as caricature a phrase from one of the theories whose assumptions he was targeting. Yes, remarking how early attempts to understa...
Obsessing about definitions seems largely in aid of fixing meaning. If you assume, or have a theory, that meaning is fixable, then definitions will be...
Anyone perplexed by this phrase should know that it is @"Wayfarer"'s bizarre mis-reading of this, Which is, as per my added emphasis, harsh on histori...
Do you mean, ? To the nominalist ("extreme" :lol: or not) this sounds metaphysical, although possibly redeemable in terms of object- and meta-language...
Yes, I know you think that outcome is inevitable, but I was wondering where, or if, you were finding any examples. I don't think nominalists will tend...
Alternatively, to see the truth of relativism, notice that truth is relative to conceptual schemes or discourses, but that these are fictions that nee...
You don't say. :meh: In the fond imaginings of a third kind of philosopher, yes of course... or, do you have examples of such a mirror symmetry? Lazer...
You jest? (Forgive my irony failure if so.) Wasn't Quine briefly gesturing to a nominalist translation of sets-talk in terms of shared naming before a...
I liked your choice of the Russell as a case study because it is clear and analytical enough to suggest an answer to the OP's question how philosophy ...
Yes, nice counter-example. Not that @"Snakes Alive" meant to shield even the likes of Russell from the aspersion that metaphysics makes fools of us al...
Only in the almost trivial sense that neurons are quite evidently some kind of switch or trigger. I roughly agree with you now (maybe, or maybe the sw...
If you like. Is that an objection? What, agree and disagree about where each other's words have 'landed', out in the world? If by computers you mean s...
Ok, well to see "why people make such a big deal of understanding" you need to see that they are interested in how we link the word "water" to the wat...
Whether they are things out in the world, or merely more words referring to those things. Yep. So what is it that a computer so easily (according to y...
Why? A quick reply isn't usually a thoughtful one. In my case at least. Actually, I think the site should instigate a minimum time between replies, as...
Ok... Ah, so after due consideration you decided not. (The referents don't have to be things out in the world.) This was Searle's frustration. You can...
I'll have another rummage. I expect that you, like "they" in the story, haven't even considered that "referents" might have to be actual things out in...
Hey thanks. Ah well that's more of a Turing Test approach, which I was aiming to avoid. I'm less concerned about our common judgements about people's ...
I agree it's empirical, but I think what the crows (and current AI) are able to do is less than we are able, which we might distinguish as "rational" ...
Yep, and by taking the plunge and facing the further truth that reference is never a matter of fact but a sophisticated social game of pretend, you ge...
And in which case, mightn't this be turned around: ...? Spatial patterns just as well can be described in terms of change and motion and passage. The ...
Thanks. Links or recommendations welcome. What did he (or you) think of philosophy that tends to avoid metaphysics? E.g. currents in foundations of ma...
No I know you didn't. You made it clear you want to guard against the innate tendency. I just suspect the tendency isn't innate at all, and that that ...
It may be, now, but were there any pseudo-scientific theories of racial superiority disseminated widely prior to the advent of the trans-Atlantic slav...
My point also. And @"InPitzotl"'s, I thought. The Chinese Room (and the chips and dip?) just (or partly) cautioned against conflating the mere product...
But you can at least believe that more risk-averse people might prefer to (in effect) bank the grand. I doubt we'd call that a paradox though, without...
I think roughly half of us are indignant that the problem is clearly stated as, ... but then, E.g. this, is perfectly true but for the switch (to fall...
I wish I could locate the youtube footage of Searle's wry account of early replies to his vivid demonstration (the chinese room) that so-called "cogni...
Agreed, put like that, it could be a kind of racism, or an aspect of it. But (to put the premise differently) the fact of our sexual attractions not b...
Modern philosophy (e.g. here) offers therapy for the ancient delusion that humans have pictures inside their heads. For gods it may be a different bal...
:point: :ok: Also, wasn't it the other way round, to some extent? Weren't Newton & co. rather cheekily re-purposing psychological words like force ("c...
I think that's wrong, in an interesting way. Antonyms are a good example of how two (or more) concepts can be vague in having fuzzy borders, but yet a...
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