I've been clearer. That would indeed be ironic and a shame, since a focus on tokens is usually (e.g. in Carnap and Goodman and Quine, I don't know abo...
The second is a sentence token having, like a money token, currency and value in a system of interpretation. As such, within that system (of interpret...
No, I just meant study of meaningful discourse and communication. "Mental talk" meant mentalist talk: study which is of that subject matter and is of ...
But so is assertion. Neither relation is clear enough to merit distinguishing it axiomatically from the other. There. That at least rests the distinct...
The hope seems to be that if we wire them (the terms) up to the right bits of the world in the first place, we can ignore semantics and rely on syntax...
Indeed. A proof of how absurd the circumstance: a field linguist would be so spoilt for choice as to the right interpretation of native utterances as ...
Not a contest. I.e. Quine, at least, agrees that all predication is shared-naming, and hence all linguistic reference, as shared and un-shared naming,...
Again, the question is whether the ape reasoned by giving meaning to symbols, by being able to play the social game of pretending to point them at thi...
Like, it was clear enough where everyone stood? By the way, by "pointing" (at or up) I mean (to influence usage in the direction of): denoting, labell...
No, that completely misses the point (sorry), which is whether the determination of pointing that does go on should be regarded as something that can ...
Obviously plenty of words in most sentences, and all in some, don't point directly or at all. Not so obviously, even the direct pointing (just as plen...
A clear reductio! Try this: green is like a straight line going through each of a set of data points; grue is a line going through all the same points...
How very dare you! Goodman is a paragon of virtue with respect to the vice in question. Your chosen extract is a perfectly helpful clarification of a ...
Quine doesn't mean reference isn't a game of pointing, only that it's a game of pretend. But generally also the assumed basis of any more complex clar...
Where or what is this entity, "the state of affairs representation", if it isn't the wet stuff it represents, and it isn't a part of the report? I sup...
I make it when it makes sense: as when a weather report for any reason offers comparison of its own findings with those of Alice and Bob. "True" and "...
Not at all. Alice's statement gives every appearance of pointing appropriate words at concrete situations. If so, perhaps one of them would suffice? L...
Whether it's comparable will depend on whether you proceed to analyse the weather as a collection of physical particulars related in physical ways, or...
... Or, to be less equivocal: no, the raining and the utterance can't be the state of affairs and the statement because you are too committed to conce...
Oh well that's a relief... thank goodness that these intangibles are really quite grounded, and far from being any kind of metaphysical fantasy! :gasp...
So, it is their actually sharing a pattern? As with the case of a written melody and the sound represented? But apparently not, and you shrink from an...
Do you mean you think that the T-schema actually exhibits or requires an isomorphism between the sentence p (or its quotation or both) and the situati...
A sense of consciousness (enabling modern English speakers to coherently use the word "conscious" and perhaps pre-moderns the word "sentient") arises ...
You keep going cosmic. When we point symbols at things we sort them, and present them a certain way. The way they are is how they are sorted. We use e...
I didn't say you were. I did say you were. Glad you deny it. :smile: Do you mean, when we point symbols at things, it depends on the things being ther...
"from outside": You keep saying it's nonsense (and metaphysics) to say that "how the world is" is dependent on how we describe it. I keep saying it's ...
The little society, one and all, entered into this laudable design and set themselves to exert their different talents. The little piece of ground yie...
Correct usage: mods please note. :wink: Vagueness. For example, non-vague discourse requires a non-vague syntax, provided by alphabetic characters of ...
I think it might. Well I failed to clock that you might have shifted your example from the Jurassic period to some pre-life (Hadean) eon. Was this del...
A sense of consciousness (enabling modern English speakers to coherently use the word "conscious" and perhaps pre-moderns the word "sentient"? I dunno...
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