Noble Dust

I have mixed feelings about conceptual art. It feels like more content being forced on me, the viewer. I think if an artist is going to involve the au...

I'm asking how art receives content or meaning, and as I've stated, I think the audience is 50% of the work, so all of these attempts by artists to de...

Because I want to experience their work myself first. Then maybe I'll listen to what they have to say. I'm a musical artist; I rarely explain anything...

It just means contemporary classical; it's also called "New Music", at least in NYC.

What I mean by "who's in charge?" is more in line with the second quote you made here. I wasn't talking about whether the artist or the record label, ...

To me, Duchamp and then the conceptual artists afterwards are just moving the goal posts; I think the same drive still compels them as much as those w...

I agree on the tediousness of his followers. But if Duchamp made us step back and question what constitutes art, what is our answer? I agree because I...

How is beauty connected to perception? Why did it take humanity so long to decide that this sort of music was beautiful? We here this now, and we easi...

Ok, I think I agree, but why? Why is Duchamp not right? Why is this art rather than that? Am I interpreting you correctly here? Was Duchamp a boon or ...

Yes, that's exactly it; there's nothing to say. So why do so many artists blather on about their shit? There's a pervading philosophical notion behind...

If the audience can give new meaning to a work, then how is that demarcated from misinterpretation?

Does thinking require words? There's really no real answer; so the best answer is an experiential answer, not a logical answer. The human perception o...

Sure, I think we're just thinking of it from opposite spectrums. To me there's a continuum of beauty; consonance and dissonance for instance. Beauty c...

The chord structure from 1:29 to 1:54 in that video I posted has some "ugly" elements, but it's beautiful at the same time. Ugly isn't really the best...

Like this!: But I disagree, there's certainly a yin/yang relationship between them, but that's exactly it: they require each other. So saying "there's...

So do you think an ugly aspect of a piece can contribute to it's beauty or no?

So you don't think an ugly aspect can contribute to something's beauty? Think about Guernica.

No, you were doing that with your response to my comment on morality and beauty. That comment was in the context of a larger paragraph where I explain...

I agree, the ugliness can contribute to what makes a piece beautiful. They aren't necessarily so binary.

?? I do.

I see what you mean here (12 tone being a hidden form of beauty? Not readily apparent?) But I'm thinking in much simpler terms, actually. It has more ...

Yup. https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/superpacs.php

You're right, I agree. I've had those experiences too. Probably just my contrarian nature rearing it's head. But I think both experiences of beauty ar...

All threads flow to The Donald

I'm not talking specifically about music, though. And I'm saying I'm as blind to the beauty in the world as anyone else, just that I've had moments wh...

I would almost say the opposite: I've aways felt, through experience, that beauty has a hidden quality; beauty is everywhere, but most of us don't hav...

It's been very rewarding.

I think there's a moral aspect of beauty, what I called "right feeling" earlier. I don't know how exactly to describe it, but predictability I see as ...

That's not art, unless you're of the "everything is art" persuasion. But assuming you didn't mean that, so you're saying the use of the bomb is horrib...

You seem to have an ear for the whole tone scale and cluster chords!

Did you get past the 1 minute mark in "Deliverance"? The point I was trying to make with that song is that "ugliness" (the first minute) can exist alo...

Can you think of no example of any artwork that is both disturbing and beautiful? "Disturbing" is closer to an emotion anyway. The proper dichotomy wo...

Is pleasant synonymous with beautiful? Maybe Opeth is an extreme example. But take this song instead (make it at least 3 mins in to see what I mean. B...

Ok, I must have read into what you were saying. I agree with you.

Here's a nice logical progression from what I've posted so far: Mid-late Symbolism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTgj_69JKA Early Modernism: https...

Are you familiar with the range of his music? Do you consider this piece beautiful in the same way as Prelude to The Afternoon of a Faun? https://www....

Which one? (Use the "reply" button so people know you responded to them).

The problem here is the sheer quantity of ever-splintering disciplines, not only within science, but within any aspect of knowledge. The more and more...

Eh? Is this is a response to my post? Click the link, it's a recording of the piece, including a score. Feel free to follow along if you can, or not.

I think beauty is something that's expressed in any one of those things you've observed in a piece of music: "power, intricacy, inspiration". Those ar...

So do I, but I'm saying that this focus on the next world to come is ingrained in Theology itself.

I think it's possible to feel certainty without it being unhealthy or a negative thing in relations with people, but I think most of the time, certain...

Well said.

I disagree, I don't think atheists (such a broad term!) have any sort of ulterior motive to destroy a Christian viewpoint. Some may, and some leading ...

Yes, and what does this stem from?

Is this beautiful? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ewPFkn363E Or this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1wW6yPDqwY Or this? (Zdzis?aw Beksi?ski) http...

Ok, so utterance is intended meaning, right? I would go so far as to say that the other meaning is poetic, in that it says more than the logical meani...

So is that a philosophical argument?

I'm admittedly very much an autodidact, and so I'm not familiar with Frege. Perhaps that contributes to the seemingly wide-spread confusion I tend to ...

All good, I realize I didn't quite use the word "admonish" properly there, I was thinking of it in less critical terms. (ah, meaning! and ah, using wo...