They do not "believe" C...they KNOW C. You are supposing that A is a positive statement...and B is a negative one. But that is not so. Both are positi...
Very complicated word salad here...and I honestly cannot fathom what you are asking or where you are going with it. But the answer to "Which came firs...
People who use the word "atheist" as a descriptor. I said that in the sentence you quoted. Pay attention. I suspect they, too, either "believe" there ...
Yup. In any case, there are times where a "definition" is important to a reasonable discdussion. But it is my experience that in way too many Internet...
Okay...we'll leave that be. But this started when you wrote, "You’re either misunderstanding me, or are wording things wrong. I agree that an Atheist ...
DOES AMERICA NEED OVERSIGHT? Shawn, right now, if America were a human...it would need institutionalization. As a human, we would be considered bat-sh...
Go play your "I am right/your are wrong" with someone else. I'd choose someone where you actually are correct...and the other person wrong, though! :w...
Time for an appropriate joke: The wife of noted lexicographer Noah Webster unexpectedly walks into the family parlor and discovers Noah passionately k...
It seems pretty clear to me. What are you trying to do here, play a variation of the game that causes some people (perhaps Tim) to suggest that "defin...
You are trying to make this into the kind of thing attributed to Hollywood Producer, Samuel Goldwyn, who at the end of a complicated production negoti...
Sometime, one simply CANNOT meaningfully or accurately "define" a thing. Best example I can think of is the word "atheist." It is a descriptor...but w...
When discussing this kind of thing, it is well to remember that dictionaries do not actually "define" words...they simply indicate how they are most o...
Well...then look more closely, because you are missing it. I can tell you it is absolutely true that I DO NOT "BELIEVE" THAT GOD EXISTS. And it is als...
The question doesn't even exist for me...and I suspect that anyone who has to look for a reason...will never find it. And that applies even if it is f...
Yeah...that's about it. Atheists think that what they "believe" and how they "believe" it... ...is much better than what theists "believe" and how the...
You have got to be careful of this, Pinprick. What you are suggesting here is fine in idle conversation (used as a linguistic convention), but in a mo...
It is possible that "something" always existed with no gods involved...and any particular "John" came about by chance. It is also possible there is a ...
Interesting question upon which to speculate. There are lots of these kinds of questions...and I LOVE to do the speculating. But there is a phrase I u...
You do see that what you are essentially saying here is: Of the two possibilities (at least one god exists) or (no gods exist)... ...of those two poss...
Best way to sum this up is by mentioning a wise comment on an adage. The adage is: You can lead a horse to water...but you can't make him drink. The w...
As an aside to this general discussion, but with some relevance, I am proud to know that I am able to apply the rules of logic with 100% efficiency......
I went from being a practicing Catholic to being an agnostic. It was a sea change. I doubt I will ever change from being an agnostic, because one thin...
We are in agreement...even on the item where you corrected what I asserted. Bottom line: It is my opinion that Occam's Razor and Pascal's Wager are bo...
Horse hockey! My guess is that damn near 100% of everyone who uses "atheist" as a descriptor..."believes" that no gods exist...or "believes" that it i...
Not only should it be OBVIOUS...it should be SOUNDLY CONDEMNED as well. This is not the time for that kind of bullshit. Thanks for speaking out about ...
That certainly seems to be the philosophy of conservative America. We really have to get away from that notion. There is no need for holding off plann...
Probably YES. But in a nice way. It seems that NOTHING is going to be resolved in a philosophical discussion, but the conversation can often get inter...
I am interested in YOU answering my question first...then we can go to your question. Here it is again: I am saying that a statement like "I 'believe'...
"IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING!" I have written those words several times in this thread. I am discussing people using the words "believe/b...
Not sure what to say...you are moving all over the place rather than discussing a single issue. I am saying that a statement like "I 'believe' there a...
You don't, huh? Okay. On the question, "Does at least one god exist...or do no gods exist?"... ...tell me how a response in either direction is NOT a ...
I agree with this. They are related. "Belief" (in the context we are discussing) is a blind guess about the unknown. "Faith" is INSISTING that the bli...
Most of the time the words "believe/belief" don't bother me at all. "I 'believe' I'll take a wizz before heading to the store" is not gonna faze me a ...
It does seem as though the theory of evolution has a lot going for it. My guess would be that where we are not...where all living things are now...evo...
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