Merkwurdichliebe

Humans are too busy eating each other. There is no justification. :grin:

Lol, with all due respect. But in communities dominated by illegal commerce, I dont see how the ""blacks"" and ""poors"" benefit. It's a funny paradox...

What about thought/belief, does its content exist prior to it?

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America has already stopped. :grin: The overwhelming majority of gun violence comes from the very same place it has for over half a century - the hood...

Better than eating your own shit. :grin:

How do you know that meat you buy from the local butcher ain't human? :kiss: Soylent Green M'F'ers!

I like your philosophy, despite what they say. Some of the things you say make a lot of sense. for example: That, there, is very clever. :up: (I'm sur...

Thanks for the lead. I'm about to start reading it.

It is even better if you are bald with a beard. And, a cloak and staff always helps...

I agree with you here. But let me just point out that in the pre-modern/classic spirit, there was no illusion of choice. (Accidentally hit post) You w...

As someone said, "the present age has too much thought, and not enough existence." In past ages, meaning for a man was tied to his nobility and honor....

Perhaps, that what words imply does not necessarily correspond to what is.

Actual existing and thinking about existence are two different things.

When two parties commit to opposing ethical principles, responsibility clashes. So we must account for the infiltration and subversion of alien morals...

Excellent post, I find it very enlightening. It could get very complex. Unicorn as idea is one thing, unicorn as image another, unicorn as dressed up ...

Well stated. I have the suspicion that moral thought/belief is of a kind that has a high degree of irrationality. Or put another way, for every moral ...

I think we were all implying things as truth and fact, but maybe you could elaborate more on your reasoning here: I'm interested.

That was existence for you at the moment of its occurence, was it not? I find that thought very comforting too. :grin:

That is the whole problem, words treat reality as though it is still. This is why it takes great care to talk about "existence/being" . The thing that...

Actually, 'thing-In-itself' implies how it is for itself, and not for another. Any species specific functional persistence would necessarily imply how...

That's how our discussions always seem to go. creativesoul is a very patient interlocutor. I'm trying not to miss that point. In fact, I find it quite...

I guess I'm only regarding "questioning" in terms of its functionality. Yet, I suppose there are much more significance ways of regarding questioning.

Well, after all, I am Merkwurdichliebe. :wink:

"Gravity as it exists" is a phenomenon that can only be immediately/directly apprehended, with or without knowledge of it. "Gravity as idea" is based ...

It's actually about whether existence is relative or absolute. How we define and use these words in this discussion is of supreme importance. Existing...

It sets up the dialectical extremes that the discourse is confined to. Absolute existence refers to that which exists in and of itself, independent of...

The relativism of the knowledge of existence is the problem here. Even if everything in existence was absolute prior to our knowledge of it, we can on...

Thanks for those responses. I think you are onto something. I have more responses coming... Wouldn't the question of something's worth be due to a lac...

Would you explain moral principles here? Morality seems to require the communication of individually held thought/belief, and an agreement (perhaps a ...

What would be some examples of codified moral thought/belief?

Ok, I'm understanding you better. Prelinguistic correlation holds motivational significance. Accepting/liking is a complex impulse in prelinguistic th...

I might. How do you distinguish them? It looks like you are saying all thought/belief is reducible to correlation including moral thought/belief, and ...

Thanks. And, I agree. Moral thought/belief obviously requires predication. Would you say all moral thought/belief is predication?

I agree. And culture is a complex of many dynamics: prelinguistic, linguistic, individual, collective, learning and teaching.

Could you elaborate on the distinction/relation between predication and correlation?

The character of Socrates as depicted by Plato is not always consistent with the historical personage of Socrates. Plato offered the largest body of m...

I'll interpret it differently. . . Pantheism is to reflect on God as existing directly in nature. From a certain perspective it might be called: "paga...

What you say is accurate. But, Nietzsche essentially accused Plato of being a system builder, particularly in "Birth of Tragedy", where he relates Pla...

Language lends to abstract thought/belief - understanding. But understanding of what we are questioning is only necessary at the point which knowledge...

Perhaps. Nietzsche's work is wide open to interpretation. There is no claim that can be made, that is not contradicted somewhere within his writing.

I love plain speech. But it is blood in the water for the language Nazis.

Nice! :up:

@"creativesoul" After reviewing earlier discussions, thought/belief was associated with meaning. But I never got to the point at which we specifically...

I definitely think he is calling out his reader, to become Dionysian - 'amor fati'. In my opinion, he is quite religious and evangelistic in his regar...

The eternal return from Dionysian to Apollonian, is found in creative willpower (will to power), which transforms the absurdity and awfulness of exist...

What is thought/belief in the first place? How are we defining it? It is impossible to determine what makes them common until we do this.

They are all modes of assessment by which we make correlations/associations/connections. Additionally, we find a social dynamic involved in the commun...

I second that.

You are right, we've put in a lot of groundwork to validate our premise. That post was not meant to discount it. I was merely expressing my opinion th...