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I thought I would respond to both of these points. First, MU's comments... My contention from reading Wittgenstein isn't that Wittgenstein is drawing ...

There is a lot to respond to in these posts. I just won't be able to respond to everything. There is something though that I think is worth pointing o...

If you're talking to me, I think it's just a bit more nuanced than that.

It's nothing new, it happens all the time. That's just the way it is.

Damn, and I thought I was sophisticated. Maybe I should throw some epistemology at you. I'm too old for sophistication, and I don't have the time. X-)

It's interesting how many different ways all of you have interpreted what I've said. Half of what's attributed to me is not what said at all. I though...

Some beliefs are caused, but not all.

She doesn't look like Ava Gardner, I find that hard to believe.:D

Let's go out to dinner, I'll be over tonight.

Moore is trying to answer the skeptic, who in this case seem to deny the existence of physical objects. Moore points out that there are certain things...

I think there is a difference between being well-grounded and being justified, at least as Wittgenstein seems to use the terms. Hinge-propositions are...

The problem with this is that you're not following closely what I'm saying, and that's part of the problem. I answered this a few posts back. Wittgens...

Thanks Creative. My ontology of a belief is that it starts pre-linguistically, so it tends to be broader in its scope.

Yes, it's important to understand what it means to justify a belief, and I'm not sure we can come to any agreement on a general definition. I'm with W...

I like to lighten things up, a lot of people are just too serious. Life's too short.

The PTSD comment was a joke. lol

Part of my response to MU... So there's no confusion, let me suggest that there are sensory statements (like Moore's claims to knowledge about having ...

I'll be responding Banno, it's just that I had a momentary flashback to some other conversations with MU. In fact, I copied all of the conversations f...

:D

As usual we're just too far apart on these issues.

Thanks for sharing that Larynx, and welcome to the forum.

What about the belief that belief should be abolished, should that belief be abolished too? Thus, this thread should be abolished.

:-O

Thanks for your input. I also learned much more outside the class setting, but the class setting enabled me to understand how to do research, and to k...

:-O

So far in this thread we've talked a bit about beliefs, and we've talked a bit about justification, or the different ways in which a belief is justifi...

Not all belief statements arrived at through sensory experiences fit within an epistemological structure. This is clearly seen in Wittgenstein's treat...

Well, actually we justify beliefs in this way all the time. Do you mean to say that I can't claim to know that the orange juice is sweet because I tas...

It is relevant because this is how we would know that prelinguistic man has beliefs. Beliefs aren't tied down to linguistics, they are tied down to li...

Read OC 285, in which Wittgenstein talks about beliefs quite apart from language, i.e., it points out how our activity reflects what we believe.

We accept certain things as part of the ground of our experience. Like chess players accepting the chess pieces and the chess board as part of that wh...

There are a variety of ways of justifying a belief, and the use of logic is only one way, i.e., it's more than just using inductive and deductive logi...

Since my definition of knowledge is justified true belief, I want to address the Gettier problem since many believe that Gettier demonstrated that the...

I reject it also. Don't forget the rest of that sentence. :D

Actually NDEs tell a different story, i.e., it's not a weak consciousness at all, in fact it's very expansive, and this reality seems dreamlike in com...

When it comes to what we mean by words/statements that something external. But when I communicate a belief, that's my belief, and as such it's part of...

Every belief is a philosophical construction, that's a bit vague. I read part of that link, I couldn't disagree more. I'm closer to the later Wittgens...

Yes, I do believe that we survive bodily existence, and yes I do believe in an afterlife; which is what I mean by transcendent. Some of what I believe...

I certainly believe in a transcendent world, if that's what you want to call it. I haven't had much hostility directed at me.

I think there is something to this, and it has to do with the relativity of time. In my studies of NDEs people often claim that their NDE lasted forev...

For Wittgenstein the most important things lie outside the world of our sensory experiences, outside "...all that is the case." Everything that can be...

I don't believe he was a transcendental idealist either, far from it, i.e., if I'm understanding the post. I would have to hear more about what this a...

First, it must be said that to understand what point Wittgenstein is making, one must understand a much larger picture than these quotes you're refere...

When I get some time Posty. I've been distracted with New Years.

I'm not sure I follow your point. I understand that you don't believe that beliefs are states-of-mind, but I'm not sure how the rest of what you're ar...

I've spent years studying Wittgenstein, in fact, my thread in the other philosophy forum went on for years, and I still don't consider myself an exper...

It will take much more than quoting a couple of passages, such an argument would be long and involved, which is why I say start a thread. Understandin...

Start a thread on the Tractatus and spell out the argument.

In my studies of Wittgenstein, both early and late, I never got the idea that Wittgenstein believed in a solipsist view of the self. However, there ar...

Solipsism implies that the self is the only thing that can be known. I would disagree with this idea. However, I do not deny the mysteries of the self...