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Yes, not their experiences. What's the difference as far as a proper understanding of morality is concerned? No its not, no one need say anything, we ...
July 01, 2020 at 07:30
My feelings, my neurological wiring, unconscious following of social norms, predictions of positive outcomes for me, God, the effects of the moral eth...
July 01, 2020 at 06:49
No they're not. Moral judgements of good and bad apply to behaviours, not to experiences. Hitting children is a behaviour which most think is morally ...
July 01, 2020 at 06:44
Yeah, 'cause history is never written with any kind of agenda!
July 01, 2020 at 05:27
Well, that sounds like a laudable aim, but you've rejected that approach already. You're saying "let's assume moral goodness is equivalent in some way...
July 01, 2020 at 05:22
With the Platonic form of a pizza roller??
July 01, 2020 at 04:58
Well I presume we'll be abandoning it right now. The fact that some random poster on an Internet forum finds the arguments to be "lame" is, after all,...
July 01, 2020 at 04:37
Well then quote something from his talks on YouTube. This is a discussion forum. There's nothing to discuss regarding your opinion that Rosenberg shou...
June 29, 2020 at 12:47
And yet... Funny how it's hard to take seriously a man for whom you've no written record of anything he's said.
June 29, 2020 at 12:34
No indeed. I should add some element of arguing against ridiculous strawmen to my 'all the worst argumentative techniques I've recently encountered' f...
June 29, 2020 at 11:44
I've read a little of Rosenburg, could you supply a quote?
June 29, 2020 at 10:59
I didn't say "irresolvable by scientific means", I just said "irresolveable".
June 29, 2020 at 10:58
Yeah, that's one of the claims. As this thread's failure to cite a single example is amply demonstrating, absolutely no one is denying that there is a...
June 29, 2020 at 10:54
Yeah. In his joint works with Marcel Kinsbourne, Dennett says The objection, in Nagel's terms is over the "immediately aware of real subjective experi...
June 29, 2020 at 10:45
... Sounds real to me. How have you concluded he denies something is real yet in the same paragraph go on to summarise what he thinks it is. What's th...
June 29, 2020 at 10:34
I'm hoping it'll stretch to at least ten pages, the first five of which will be me arguing that the laws of air flow dynamics are wrong before declari...
June 29, 2020 at 09:53
No, that's exactly what you were doing in your opinion, which is just a biased personal belief. In my opinion, which is self-evident common sense you ...
June 29, 2020 at 09:37
I think you're forgetting some key definitions Other people's opinions = biases and personal beliefs. My opinions = rational, self-evident common sens...
June 29, 2020 at 09:22
OK. Can I first paraphrase you to check I've understood what you're saying so far? I have something like... There is such a thing as correct opinion w...
June 29, 2020 at 07:18
Fair enough, your point was sufficiently made without it. It's of interest to me how some moral pronouncements fall into that category, but others don...
June 29, 2020 at 07:01
Perfect. I would add though, that, in some cases, I also think there's something wrong with the other person if they want to kick puppies. It's not ju...
June 29, 2020 at 06:24
Wouldn't then the resulting propositions be labelled 'well-justified'? But they're not, they're labelled 'true'. If we want to know the meaning of a w...
June 29, 2020 at 06:18
Really, You'd happily label a proposition 'true' based solely on your own observation? That seems uncharacteristically hubristic. I'd at least enterta...
June 29, 2020 at 06:01
Yes, but why would we all want to know what you find problematic? We're not your therapists.
June 28, 2020 at 17:12
So you posted all this because...?
June 28, 2020 at 16:49
No. You wondered if it existed. You have no experience of wondering, you are not aware of these processes in real time. Do you? Isn't that just beggin...
June 28, 2020 at 16:13
Do you have anything more substantive to say than just declaring your own incredulity? Like any view on the detail of any of the arguments you oppose,...
June 28, 2020 at 13:21
But isn't this what the whole issue hinges on, and therefore removing it would re-frame the problem? Take the quest for the Holy Grail - I could defin...
June 28, 2020 at 06:43
I should alert one of the mods to the fact that they accidentally erased The Truth. I expect they naively thought it might be mere speculation.
June 27, 2020 at 17:18
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"Admins have the right to ban members. We don't do that lightly, and you will probably be warned about your behaviour if you are under consideration f...
June 27, 2020 at 17:01
That's fine, I won't continue this line of enquiry then, another time maybe.
June 27, 2020 at 16:42
The full report, for anyone who wants the details. Definitely worth reading.
June 27, 2020 at 13:06
Or, another way of writing all that is "..."
June 27, 2020 at 12:39
I understand, what concerns me is do we refute, one at a time, the stories told to excuse the existence of an underclass, or do we just dispute the st...
June 27, 2020 at 12:35
No. I think it's because a lot of powerful people are making a lot of money out of the underclass, a necessary component of any capitalist system. The...
June 27, 2020 at 09:48
Getting us white men to recognise and declare our privelidge is nothing more than a mumbled apology, and no less empty of real value. The idea of reco...
June 27, 2020 at 09:21
That's exactly what the whole argument about systemic racism is trying to avoid. The idea that it's white people's attitudes to blacks that's the caus...
June 27, 2020 at 09:13
I see a lot about links between dopamine and environmental stimuli which may have conferred a competitive advantage. Ignoring for now the question beg...
June 27, 2020 at 08:46
Why would our beliefs need to be objectively true in order for them to have meaning?
June 27, 2020 at 06:20
None of that says anything about the equivalence between moral 'good/bad' and hedonic 'pleasure/pain'. That's the thing you said you could prove (or a...
June 27, 2020 at 06:16
I read it. I can't find anything in there answering the question about how you show someone is wrong if they do not equate moral 'good' and 'bad' to h...
June 27, 2020 at 05:58
(Deep breath...count to ten...) Which particular work of psychology gave you that impression?
June 27, 2020 at 05:43
Yes, but limiting your sample to those people does not then contradict the argument that the vast majority of people are empiricist about the vast maj...
June 26, 2020 at 17:20
Empiricism is about the source of knowledge, not the source of beliefs. Whatever measure you use to distinguish between the two (I prefer a fuzzy grad...
June 26, 2020 at 16:43
It's not about whether hedonic experiences are shared, it's about whether the feeling that they relate to 'goodness' and 'badness' is shared, which yo...
June 26, 2020 at 16:13
I am, as has been pointed out, a 'batshit crazy leftist' and yet my government is lead by the political equivalent of Benny Hill, so no, nobody had to...
June 26, 2020 at 13:35
So are you suggesting that the media have no influence, that discernable structures of subjugation have no influence on children growing up, that exis...
June 26, 2020 at 13:00
I'm not seeing the necessary link between 'recignising' general forms and simply knowing how to use generalising terms in a language game. The fact th...
June 26, 2020 at 08:25
Why?
June 26, 2020 at 08:06