Isaac

I'm not going to just keep repeating myself here. I'm not talking about what anti-natalism actually says. I'm talking about the implications of their ...

What it advocates and what it's philosophical positions end up encouraging are two different things. As I said, it's not your motives I'm talking abou...

Nor would I claim it is, that detracts neither from the point I made nor the justification for posting it. If you'd have posted neo-Nazi propaganda I ...

Same thing. Metaphysical novelty is just a human construct. We don't bring a thing into existence by our treatment of it. The idea of the Scrabble til...

Why would you be surprised at the sudden emergence of something metaphysically interesting? What's metaphysically interesting is just a function of hu...

Have you ever heard a teenager complain "I never asked to be born!" when asked by their parents to carry out some chore? Schop has unfortunately found...

But you said that humans are doing what other matter does, in that it experiences this interaction. So you've decided on the unit doing the experienci...

Interesting questions, but I think a discussion of conscious vs sub-conscious processing would be too far from the topic of this thread.

No, but as we have seen in both 'free-will' threads, it makes a difference to our default positions in the face of uncertainty. Yes, I think that may ...

Thanks, I will have a read.

Interesting to consider why though. If someone forces you at gunpoint to rob a bank, you've still robbed the bank, you're still guilty of that crime. ...

Conscious processes would be those we experience the stages of, sub-conscious processes would be those we experience only the results of, and infer th...

I just mean a move away from individual conclusions on the matter, supported by nothing but convention, toward investigation, testing, increased rigou...

Then what we "experience" is made entirely of sodium ions.

Nice 'anticipation shift'. You should put it in your malapropisms thread.

Maybe true, but how we interpret what other people say is a completely different process which takes place in a different part of the brain. I was tal...

Yeah, that's basically it. True, but it's not as if equally difficult to judge aspects of psychology are not also (necessarily) addressed in court - t...

There are many, many people who do not identify with some of their mental states. Depression, anxiety, paranoia, PTSD, schizophrenia, stress... People...

I think my word choice has caused some confusion. I introduced the notion of preferred simply to be clear that there aren't any objective measures of ...

Since no-one here is arguing that single mental states lead predictably to single behaviours, I can't see how to interpret your disagreements in any w...

I've not heard this definition anywhere - perhaps you could cite a source? The key aspect is the bolded terms. I've heard no-one ever talk about deter...

This has been cropping up in both conversations currently touching on determinism, so for the sake of getting a different perspective, I'll ask again ...

About 1 in every 1,000 words for adults - according to Garnham A, Shillcock R, Brown GDA, Mill AID, Cutler A. Slips of the tongue in the London–Lund c...

It wasn't passive agressive, just plain agressive. There are people for whom the best science we have indicates diminished responsibility on the groun...

Fortunate then that you have no involvement with these troubled individuals, that you would condemn a person on the basis of nothing more than your ad...

I'm not sure mercy is contingent. There's obviously many different understandings (religious and humanist), but in most the act of mercy seems to be o...

Ah, that makes sense now, I took the sentence too literally. Indeed, and 'complicated' is certainly right, but is it that you think such a notion of f...

According to whom?

Yep. Seems to be. Yeah, I've been reading that one to see if any progress could be made. I had all but given up here too, but then I read the last pos...

I'm not sure how you're seeing your second statement as anything like a reason to believe the first. The use of probabilities could be down to measure...

Thanks. I watched a thing by Jim Al-Khalili about something like that a long while back, but not having much understanding of the basics I didn't real...

To my knowledge, they all do, but I'm no expert. I may be using the terms incorrectly (@"Kenosha Kid" could correct me if so). It's my understanding t...

I've a lot sympathy with that position. 'Not a well-formed concept' I think is something philosophy can often help with, so there's merit in discussin...

I thought I was getting a sense of déjà vu from this conversation so I checked back through my posts and indeed I've had virtually this exact discussi...

We weren't talking about QM. We were talking about theories where it doesn't just resolve into determinism at the scale of biological processes. Theor...

That's not something the evidence points towards at all (as in distinguishing true indeterminism from mere pragmatic uncertainty). Notwithstanding tha...

But it doesn't, not in the least bit. It points to the fact that there may be (perhaps even more likely than not), indeterminacy at quantum scales. Al...

This seems like a very odd approach. Scientific theories suggest the some quantum scale events might possibly be not determined and you take that as r...

So when you said "We can also get rid of determinism" with regards to the causes of our behaviour you presumably mean "...only on the basis of evidenc...

You mean gathering and analysing evidence, yes?

Not sure what you mean.

So how do we decide which things are predetermined and which are not (or to what extent)?

So you're saying that whether the ball comes down or not is determined by factors in the environment?

No, just an ordinary human throw.

I didn't ask your permission, I asked if you think I ought to.

So if I throw a ball in the air I should act as if it may or may not come back down again?

Did you not read my refutation of the whole thing recently published in the Journal of Middle-Earth Studies?

Yeah, the analysis in that 1991 paper is an absolute gem.

And replace it with...?

Yes, but I was on a train and bored. Occasionally it's interesting to take a swipe at the apriorist piñata and see what kind of word-confetti sprays o...