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I don't know what the difference could be between proto-consciousness and consciousness. There's no conceptual space in between consciousness and non-...

Everyone on this forum is a bullshit generator. At least chatGPT is comprehensible bullshit written in clear measured prose

I thought that was moral congitivism. Moral realism, surely, is the idea that morality exists independently of any minds.

I thought the categorical imperative wasn't a name for a type of view, by the particular view of Kant, namely something like "act only on those princi...

Good stuff from Banno. I've never managed to form a strong opinion on knowledge. Still don't know what line to take.

The Secret Life of Minerals, David Attenborough

So state it differently then so that your meaning is more transparent. You cant read for your readers, but your readers can't write for you either.

I'll try and work through this. :) Understood. If I were a (materialist) naturalist/physicalist I might try and make something of strong emergentism i...

Do you live in a very religious social environment? I find one person I can talk to freely is enough, but less than that is rough.

@"Michael" Back to basics! I guess non-emergent monistic property dualism would be one unbroken circle with a P and an M in it. Is that right? Emergen...

Any age is too young. At no point is a person's potential exhausted. On the other hand people need to get out of the fucking way and die.

I enjoyed this disproportionate response.

That doesn't mention chickens. Consider: "The world is an egg, but the egg itself is a theatre: a staged theatre in which the chickens dominate the ac...

I do, but coming from a panpsychist that doesn't help does it? But even if rocks weren't conscious (which they most definitely are) I'd still say they...

That should be pinned somewhere

Good stuff from @"Michael". I agree with the characterisation of idealism.

That's interesting. I'm definitely not a substance dualist. I don't think @"Wayfarer" is, he's an non-dualist, although he might not identify as a mon...

One motivation for suggesting that mind or consciousness precedes being is the view that it seems impossible that consciousness emerges from systems t...

interesting article, thank you

I picked phenomenological as the subject to which philosophy has the most relevance, but logic and conceptual cleanliness is perhaps the next. And the...

This thread isn't about Dfpolis's paper any more is it?

Literally nobody ever says that. Not that I've heard anyway.

Hi!

These talks don't seem to support what you're saying. For example, Anil Seth defines 'consciousness' just in terms of subjective experience, at least ...

Dfpolis says he concludes God, not assumes God. In any case it's not particularly relevant for this thread.

...maybe, and if so it seems he'd likely be right!

Thank god you got there before me. I was dreading having to make this very simple point. That's wrong Banno, as I thought you'd already agreed. There ...

Always happy to help!

Righto. I haven't offended you have I? Just unsure of tone.

I'm not exactly sure what you are asking for, but I'll offer this. As other minds are not directly perceptible (I suggest) they have to be inferred, i...

We are talking at cross purposes, it may have been my fault. When I asked you who you were thinking of, I meant which idealist philosophers. Also, whe...

Yeah, maybe

OK, so even on your own conception of idealism, this criticism fails because idealists don't just believe in human minds. Are you now going to say tha...

Sure, that's fine. There's nothing about 'us' in that characterisation you just gave. Yet your criticisms of idealism, if I recall, usually do centre ...

Idealism isn't necessarily about our (human) minds. It's about any minds. Minds other than human minds are invoked to account for object permanence. A...

Another day, another thread I think! Thank you for sharing your views. I don't want to pollute Dfpolis's thread with a whole load of stuff about defin...

Yes, I think that's right. It's why I don't use the term 'qualia' - it creates too much confusion. That's interesting and not something I've thought a...

That seems right to me. It really makes discussing a topic hard work. @"Nickolasgaspar" might be a case in point, assuming we want to bring back the G...

Sorry, I just don't think you've grasped the distinction between definition and theory. You're not the only one, there's lots of people here who strug...

Sure, this bit is reasonably theory free, and can more or less serve as a definition (I'd leave out the arousal bit): ...whereas this bit (whether it ...

That's your page, not Dfpolis' page! That's not the definition he's using! This is a discussion based on his concept, not yours.

I don't think so no. Yes, perhaps, depending on exactly what you mean. And yes there is an idea of mind or Being. I don't really like using a capitali...

That's exciting! A proper paper on my favourite subject by a TPF user. If I can manage it I might start a thread on it if that's OK with you.

That's not right, and it's really important. A definition sets the limit of the application of a term, and it enables you to be able to use a word in ...

That's a good question, thank you for asking it. I think on a philosophy forum like this, I'm looking for arguments. I want to know why a position is ...

You may be right, but to my mind 'external' could just mean 'not me'. On a Berkeleyan system, there is a world external to me, and possibly external t...

You're not the only one he doesn't listen to, but nor is he the only one that doesn't listen to you. I struggle with your posts, and I suspect others ...

I'm not sure why idealism is on there. Idealism is not a position on whether or not there is an external world, but about whether that world (external...

Regarding 1 and 2 I have no idea what humans will manage to do or not, but I'm not sure if the idea of emergence is quite the right idea to capture su...

Sophists are sleepwalkers? And you're awake presumably in this metaphor?