No because I didn't force them to read it. Unlike with children who you force into this world. Then it's not your responsibility. It's not your respon...
This right here is the main point. The point isn't "don't take bets", it's "don't take bets with SOMEONE ELSE". I like taking bets, I enjoy life for t...
Risk to the child that will be born. In the same way that setting a bear trap in an empty park is a risk for people that will be there even though the...
it being self limiting doesn't make it unnecessary to bother with. That's exactly what I'm saying. That just sounds like an excuse to me. "I don't car...
A distinct reproductive disadvantage is not a reason to believe the philosophy will necessarily fail. There have been antinatalists since classic time...
That is not a good reason. Because I don’t care how small the chances of being miserable are (although I don’t think they’re that low) it’s still not ...
“But how is this sentiment for you to decide?” ???? Sentiment? What sentiment? I’m just making a statement of fact. Do I know my kids would not be mis...
I think my framework is just a more general form of that. You satisfy some systems at the expense of others. So the part of you making demands you pla...
Why I became an antinatalist basically went like this: 1- Do I know my children would enjoy their life and find it worthwhile? No. 2- Would I mind if ...
The reason I say that is just to be fair. We describe only the atoms that make up machines, animals and inanimate objects, detect no "spirit", then we...
Did you read Philosophy in the flesh? Because that sounds exactly like it. But still, you haven't offered an alternative metaphor and haven't answered...
no to assume they ARE more than what you see and to assume everything else is not more than what it seems is hypocritical, egotistical and unreasonabl...
That's what I meant when I said that the first causes for creating the universe are either no longer relevant or have been reinterpreted as something ...
Well that's a wild theory. But according to it there should be Martians right now Ok I can't. But what I'm suggesting is that the start of the univers...
No it's not. If it was why would there be so many useless stars and planets elsewhere. Why wouldn't it be just earth and the sun. Why not? Whoa there ...
Why? You're giving this thing human properties such as drives. They don't necessarily apply to it. How do you define "drive" anyway? Does the moon hav...
didn't say I was a deist either. I said I don't mind cosmic consciousness explanation but I don't necessarily think they're right. It's a reasonable t...
I literally just posted on another post that most atheists don't mind the "cosmic consciousness" God lol. What most atheists mind is the self contradi...
arguing for a divine consciousness is not that hard but also completely inconsequential. Taking all your argument to be true changes nothing about how...
yeah I agree that God doesn't exist as defined above. I was just saying that the question is a perfectly yes or no question unlike what the OP is sayi...
A "building" doesn't exist naturally. Much less the empire State building. There is no natural concept of "building" or of "tree" inherent in nature. ...
oh I’m so sorry for thinking the words you say mean the words you say. Tell me exactly what you mean then because apparently I haven’t addressed your ...
now when you take that to the extreme as is done in the post it turns from "showing willingness" to "always" and when that happens you can't defend yo...
the way I see it trying to convince someone to change what they think or what they do In any way falls under Intolerant. You don't tolerate their beli...
you would be forcing your attacker not to attack you. The defense lawyer IS trying to force his belief "my client is innocent" on others. That's intol...
ok cool so since you can't force your beliefs on others that is identical to not being able to defend yourself is it not? If someone attacks you you c...
expressing your opinion is fine but trying to force it on someone else is not. Because that would mean you don't tolerate their beliefs and want to ch...
objective defined as "everyone agrees with it" is very different from objective as "will never be different regardless of anyone's opinion". You can m...
tolerance is tolerating any and all opinions and acts without opposing them. No matter how much you disagree with them. That's at least the extreme ve...
not it wouldn't make sense to defend tolerance if you're pro tolerance because that would mean you're not tolerant towards the intolerant which makes ...
If you find TRUE RANDOMNESS (that exists in quantum mechanics as far as we know) then determinism is done for. Not much luck for free will though if t...
If it existed you would never know when you found it because you’re a subjective creature. You’d have to be God to know and even then you wouldn’t be ...
Well you haven’t said them here lol. And looking into the comment history of everyone I meet is creepy and time consuming Why were you stating it as f...
I actually got tired of arguing with NU as it's just impossible to win then. The best thing you can do against a NU Antinatalist is show them the absu...
Yes. That’s the point of blame. To get someone prosecuted. Not to punish them for being “bad”. You get people prosecuted so that you may survive. That...
It’s not an inevitability. It might convince others not to have children (deterministically of course) and then eventually maybe an anti-reproduction ...
Parents. Not the heavens. We humans are born with an evolutionary tendency to blame others who cause pain not because they chose to (that’s what we te...
He means that a non existent thing (an unborn baby) doesn’t need anything including life but when someone is born, they suddenly need things in life. ...
As a metrialist I see blame and prosecution as an evolved mechanism for removing troublemakers and bolstering your chances of survival. As a materiali...
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