Ok. I'm still not sure how this is relevant. What does our ability to end existence have to do with whether or not it's morally fine to have children ...
The original line was: WATCH ME *presses big red button*. Maybe I should've kept it that way. It is entirely possible though highly unlikely for human...
What's a "substance"? And what does "Extended" mean? And again what is "Stuff." I think defining these is just as hard as defining time, which is why ...
In other words: "There may be a refutation to your argument but I don't know it." I don't think that really amounts to anything. That an argument migh...
What's a "stuff" and what's a "dimension." I think attempting to define things so basic to our experience like "time", "space" and my favorite "shape"...
Uhhh yes it can? WATCH ME jumps off building A person (a "one") cannot choose not to have existed. The choice has already been made. Another baseless ...
Is a completely different thing from colors themselves. The "concept of colors" can be anything, from 4 numbers representing the degree of red, blue a...
I never said this And the government gives you a choice to shoot people or not. You'll just go to jail if you do. With this definition everything is a...
I know what "the game" stands for. This doesn't answer the question at all, it just says "it's an issue" Uh huh. This doesn't mean the game SHOULD be ...
Why would rendering the game unplayable be an issue? We already think it is moral to render the game unplayable in some cirucmstances, such as if a co...
This doesn't do so either. It says it's a necessity. That's all it does. That's different from "justifying". Example: "People will have children" does...
I don't think many patients would report that they eat food because they dread non existence. When you're near starvation... Which is not the situatio...
I can't speak for schopenhauer1 but at least for me the situation is more like: A majority of players agreed on a set of rules that would forbit makin...
I thought you were the one that said "We are driven by pleasure and pain". Why would you crave food then if you do not find it enjoyable. Are you sayi...
Why would this be true? God says what "unjust" and "unloving" means not us. So if he decides that you deserve eternal damnation for being evil for 70-...
That is incorrect neurlogically speaking. Most people think that we are "motivated" by pleasure and pain but neurlogically that's just not the case. T...
Let's pretend I don't. What would you do. Huh but I thought you claimed that people cannot possibly disagree with a first premise, but here you say if...
That is the case with each and every moral system That is the same with your system. I understand that you begin from a premise that's true by definit...
I didn't say it was unarbitrary. I agree. Yup yup But this "derivation" will be different from person to person and from circumstance to circumstance....
"Act such that you ensure you consume the largest amount of cheese possible" is another system that does that. I don't think that would pass as a mora...
I'm trying to say that mind isn't a physical object. What you're asking for is akin to asking "Is heat located in a hot iron". I just think it's a cat...
Is it just me or does this sound very similar to Sartre's "essence". I find that nihilism, existentialism and everyone from that neighbourhood (jungia...
Ok so does the use of should in these two sentences sound EXACTLY the same to you? 1- You should not steal 2- In order to cook a steak you should turn...
The conclusions don't change but I never agreed with the conclusion in the first place Your argument as I understand it is: 1- People seek change unti...
Ok I'll go with that. One can argue that the desire to eat is also (while not logical) a necessity. I also showed how "going to stability" isn't a log...
I think we should focus on this: If this follows then "If I don't eat I would be doing something immoral" would also have to follow (since you say tha...
maybe but I don't think so It is. There is nothing "moral" about eating. Tell me what formal logical law is employed in going from "I have the goal to...
I usually like to think of myself as a member of a "counsil" that decides what my body and brain does. I have an "office" which is my mind where I can...
Put those together and you get: If it's false it's true which makes it false which makes it true which makes it false........ I think that's what he m...
Ok so we're judging stability by "does it try to change" rather than the physical definition. Then it's a non sequitor. Look at it this way: Everyone ...
Is literally an oxymoron. Why do you think heat death is more stable than right now? Because that's what this implies I've heard similar arguments bef...
Agreed. But that implies that it is not logically necessary to seek stability. That's what we see because we have flowers in our eyes. Ever heard of e...
Key words: You think. Not everyone actually does. I don't think you can do that forever. I think there will be premises you can't take back further. E...
Not true. Everything is trying to change it's current state =/= everything is trying to achieve stability. Everything could just be wandering from ins...
What's logically necessary about it? I wouldn't call it "logically necessary". In the same way that food isn't "logically necessary" neither is seekin...
This is the problem. That you desire to reduce your desires will guarantee you fail. Try it. You just end up desiring to keep up the self opression an...
"I am driven by my desire to own a prosche" and "I want a Porsche" are synonyms. If you do something because you want a Porsche you are doing what you...
"Driven by our desires" and that would be the same in case everyone did what they wanted and eventually "Driven by our fears" would also be the case a...
Honestly, I don't think it would be so different. Soon enough people will realize that the most realistic way to do what they want includes doing some...
What objection? What argument? Quotes please? Odd because me and TheMadFool agreed to make that distinction yet I fail to see how it impacts antinatal...
I'm highly skeptical of the use of "everyone" there. First off how do you know it's everyone? Have you talked to every person who ever lived is alive ...
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