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So a "Yay" for comply. Got it. Funny you mention "context" and provide none of it, thus making the statement hollow and meaningless unless contextuali...

I think interacting with others is its own form of tyranny.. There will always be fights, hatreds, dislikes, distastes, value differences, no matter w...

I honestly hate how Eastern ways of thinking has bled into New Age Western thinking.. It's always about not saying something correctly, and then when ...

What is pernicious about it?

Ok, so I know you would like me to imbibe from the "TRUTH" of Buddhism en totale, because (like hipsters say), "I just won't get it" otherwise.. but w...

So instead of playing this game, why don't you give me some references, and we can see if it is the conception I have from what I know already, and we...

Nice. :up:

I have read it, and I am not convinced of such a state. I just don't buy it. I've read about ego-death, etc. It entails a certain metaphysics as well,...

Yep. Yep. I compare it to Sheryl Sandberg's "Lean In". https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLWSLaZ0J-YN3xcCsgRvlgE2wztDGapmtsJ1TZW...

This is the problem with mixing scientific concepts.. So let's say there is a concept of relativism in physics or chance in quantum mechanics... This ...

I see population control as just a happy outcome from antinatalism, not as the reason. But I see it was a good segue to show that video.

So this is just a follow up to my lengthy Schopenhauer quote.. What I think I disagree with most in your approach is that you are championing Schopenh...

This actually gets tricky. Schopenhauer was an idealist, so the world as appearance is just internal, not "out there". In fact, Schop is a true Ideali...

Metaphorically, death, discomfort, and boredom are the gun to the head. That is part of my OP about dissatisfaction. That is part of complying with th...

Better? Wasn’t saying it as a directive but a description in it’s context as in this is what is going on, not what you should do.

“Don’t complain, just kill yourself” is the message that people are seeming to say. Comply or die. There is no peace even in trying to vocalize the pe...

Stop being a childish red herring ad hom Antinatalist was replying what he thought about Agent Smiths reply. Don’t start picking fights for no reason.

Exactly.

Because you are making that genetic (or something akin) fallacy again. Even if the world was really a big illusion as an appearance (the devils playgr...

That’s right. Better than tacit whatever else it is that’s going on when not examining life (aka not understanding what’s actually going on). Sleep ap...

See here for good example of cynical humor ;).

:lol: Haha. The picture you paint is right on the money, but I won't ignore it. All on point. Ignored locust eating wilderness howlers. And correct, d...

I see my own struggles promoting antinatalism in this.. They will say that it is you who have it wrong... No amount of showing wealth inequalities is ...

And I haven't even TOUCHED the idea of contingent harm. This is all so far about the inherent necessary harm of simply being at all (the survival-diss...

Yet, you have offered no real solution other than words like "connection, collaboration, and awareness". Funny how easy that part is. Vague notions ar...

And so the whole project of putting a positive spin on things. Deleuze difference ad nauseum the same as Whitehead's creativity ad nauseum?

It is funny how people confuse leading out of a bad situation to putting people in the situation in the first place so that they can lead them out. I'...

Probably should read a few.. Because you came into the discussion saying, "I don't get this illusion business" when I am in the midst of telling other...

If we count it as living together without exploiting one by burdening them, perhaps it can. I am not optimistic about my project either. All I have is...

I can't argue that dominance is a factor. People who are aggressive and assertive often do get their way.. The meek often don't inherit the earth. Peo...

Well you can stop commenting on my posts then.. Simple as that. I don't need you to police what I am saying. Or clutch at your pearls when I say them....

It's part of the development of the human animal to develop a "self". Unless you are trying to pose some sort of evidence of extreme Sapir-Worff hypot...

I mean I did call it a technique to help cope, so you are building straw men for things I didn't say in my OP...So in that regard, I can kind of see i...

Though it's addressed to Possibility.. I would like to reiterate again the fallacy of mixing the components of the phenomenon for the phenomenon itsel...

Yeah good point. I mentioned earlier the idea of minutia-mongering. When focused on the minutia, the big picture becomes negated. The minutia can get ...

Yes! Exactly. Exactly... You see, you're not suffering, cause "you" don't exist :roll:.

Eugenics is people forcing certain groups not to procreate and forcing others to do so. Not quite the word to use. Antinatalts are not "eugenics"ing t...

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No I'm not comparing Willy Wonka to the universe, but procreating the agenda of what human affairs generally outlined consists of, onto another person...

What about life needs supporting anyways? We haven’t even figured that out and you rush to the assumption we should. Life, liberty, pursuit of happine...

No this is taking the point out of context. Rather the compliance is how we live when we are not dead. There can’t be non-compliance, lest death. Beca...

Besides being a bunch of word salad this is just ridiculous. You are making a whole bunch of logical errors. You conflate what something might be comp...

This is a false dichotomy.. so I don't buy the straw man you are knocking down. Is this a justification for birthing more people? No. Because the agen...

While these are good points, I think that the dissatisfactory nature of being is providing the why as to why the realities don't met the ideals. Rathe...

Again, you either are not addressing or are failing to see how we are bound by the situatedness of historical contingency, physics, and socioeconomic ...

Not necessarily so.. Procreation gives us the unique perspective of someone living making a decision on behalf of someone else.. If we know suffering ...

Look at the quote again.. So he is saying the contemplative of art is relinquishing the common way of looking at things, which he qualifies as giving ...

I don't view evolution quite so cut-and-dry in humans regarding procreation. Procreation becomes a choice, unlike eating food or going to the bathroom...

Am I doing your homework or something? Haha, look it up on Book 3! But I'll give you some quotes, but there are just too many comments to give a summa...

So there is a problem that there is too much to quote! All of Book 3 of The World as Will and Representation can be referenced. But as a start, look a...