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It's the pleasure in watching George Carlin on a pessimistic rant perhaps. But to me, it's a little more. Rather, we are always but evaluative creatur...
July 09, 2023 at 01:05
No it wouldn't though. The thought experiment works only if there is a rough symmetry between the situation of procreation and the already-existent, T...
July 09, 2023 at 00:51
What are you saying the poem is saying of what we want? Ascetic stillness? Grace from suffering? Death? Dreamless sleep? Nirvana? Moksha into the cosm...
July 08, 2023 at 23:08
I do know the works that influenced him the most are Upanishads, Kant, and Plato. Upanishads- The Maya illusory realm of representation that a few can...
July 08, 2023 at 23:06
No I'm not really. I'm just trying to understand the metaphor on a concrete level as you brought it up so asking you more direct questions about its m...
July 08, 2023 at 22:30
Before such thing as a "personality disorder" was really known, I think Schopenhauer had one, and probably something akin to Obsessive Compulsive Pers...
July 08, 2023 at 22:09
What do you think is wicked and sinful? The usual murder, theft, dishonesty, et al?
July 08, 2023 at 21:55
No not at all. The main point is that the negatives come with positives and that positives are not really a "gift" if they come with intendent burdens...
July 08, 2023 at 21:50
Indeed, so how do you suppose this manifests in life? Religious life? Ascetic? I'd imagine that is what the usual interpretations are.
July 08, 2023 at 19:43
Agreed. Well-acknowledged that Schop never lived up to his philosophy for sure. And Nietzsche is right perhaps for taking him to task. Philosophers ar...
July 08, 2023 at 19:35
So my hypothesis would be that in the Israelite prayer system was akin to other gods. That is to say, it was transactional. You honor the deity, the d...
July 08, 2023 at 19:13
Ok, so why this passage? I do like his critiques of Schopenhauer's personal life as compared to his philosophy, that he indeed lived a vigorous althou...
July 08, 2023 at 18:50
Indeed, good points about the future and basically is my point to Existential Hope. What I might contend here with (I am not sure really where you sta...
July 08, 2023 at 18:31
I mean, how is Nietzsche, when simplified to its actual ideas different from something like "positive psychology" or "Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs", sp...
July 08, 2023 at 16:40
Getting someone a traditional gift, and handing someone a box of gifts with tremendous burdens are two very different things, and to equivocate the tw...
July 08, 2023 at 16:27
This is the kind of thinking I am talking about: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/820995
July 08, 2023 at 16:06
It's not actual billionaires (like Donald Trump) but her idea of "titans of industry" who through their greatness and will do great things and move hu...
July 08, 2023 at 15:57
I'm sorry it doesn't work that way. I can't assume someone wants me to do a "happy" thing for them. But I can safely assume, and in fact am morally ob...
July 08, 2023 at 15:53
It’s not ethical to judge for someone else the amount of harms is appropriate for the “treat” of goods. In fact, that’s perverse. You are playing god ...
July 08, 2023 at 09:55
Happiness giving is not ethical but supererogatory. If I don’t give someone happiness in my daily life but don’t cause suffering I have done nothing w...
July 08, 2023 at 09:45
The action isn’t about an existing person, it’s about a future person that could exist. In lingistics this is the future conditional tense.
July 08, 2023 at 09:43
This is still wrong. If I give my friend a car and they might get into an accident is a different calculation than if I give my friend a car but they ...
July 08, 2023 at 09:40
This makes no sense. There is no difference in the scenario I provided except one is a friend that exists. The form is the same for both. You give one...
July 08, 2023 at 09:33
Perhaps. Why would I agree with Nietzsche's assessment? He thought Noise was good and Quietude was weak. He thought the weaklings were too long praise...
July 08, 2023 at 04:34
Yeah, doesn't seem to move me. Quite opposite. I just see Ayn Rand with a mustache, or perhaps Ayn Rand is Nietzsche with lipstick. Either way, both a...
July 08, 2023 at 04:20
Not my style, but I get it. As I said, it doesn't market well, and admitted as such. I'll only leave you that pragmatics doesn't mean it's good. If an...
July 08, 2023 at 04:17
@"plaque flag" This needs to be examined that in order for goodness you need some evil. This itself can be construed of as an evil. That is to say, th...
July 07, 2023 at 22:31
Holistic understanding of how thought developed over time is definitely not what most institutions try to market to people. There are some exceptions....
July 07, 2023 at 22:08
100% what's missing. As if this wasn't the result of human efforts but some sterile equations and information. Ridiculous how education essentializes ...
July 07, 2023 at 22:03
@"plaque flag" @"Tzeentch" Here is a thought experiments for you: If you had the ability to give the gift of the following to a friend: Creating or ex...
July 07, 2023 at 21:45
Whether true or not about Buddhism, I balk at the idea of the inevitability of being that then must be freed from it. It's my complaint in the other t...
July 07, 2023 at 16:59
It depends on measure of success, but I don't see the idea catching on. Working and consuming seems to be the ethos/reality of the day. Travel and "ba...
July 07, 2023 at 16:49
I get it for sure. Schopenhauer did have that idea of "inevitability of our programming" idea. But I think Zapffe counteracts the determinism in a way...
July 07, 2023 at 16:44
Still not what I'm talking about though. Social issues and existential issues are not the same, and perhaps even a bit opposed.
July 07, 2023 at 15:47
I do like the poetic imagery of the Silence vs. Noise party. Ties into my other thread on being and becoming. But we come back to this difference we h...
July 07, 2023 at 15:45
Humor in the Horror. I think that's always been associated to some extent. It's a way to help cope. Oh yeah for sure, good points on the public perfor...
July 07, 2023 at 15:28
Heroic roles indeed. I see what you're saying. But can there be more of a communal commiseration aspect to it rather? Like, "I see this, does anyone e...
July 07, 2023 at 15:25
I'm not quite following what you are saying. I think you have some interesting ideas but I can't seem to link them together. It seems something to do ...
July 07, 2023 at 14:15
Why do you think people lack sufficient free will enough?
July 06, 2023 at 14:17
I was explaining how the the first written myth, the Epic of Gilgamesh, spoke of gods who were pissed at all the noise the humans made so flooded the ...
July 06, 2023 at 14:16
Going back to enthalpy, why create more work for people because you have happy moments? That is the biggest con of an argument. We have the power to n...
July 06, 2023 at 12:05
I'm just going to give response I gave to apokrisis: But that's not the ethical point. If it was as simple of you like vanilla and I like chocolate, t...
July 06, 2023 at 12:02
Im thinking more along these lines: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life
July 06, 2023 at 00:23
And we are not facing entropy daily?
July 05, 2023 at 23:29
That good exists doesn't negate the bad. The problem is humans are an existential creature, which means we can at any time contemplate existence itsel...
July 05, 2023 at 21:46
Yep. What is it about this "nod" to being that people seem to be programmed for? What is the programming exactly that aligns with "being is good, AN i...
July 05, 2023 at 21:42
It goes back to this: Obligations for happiness-giving is of very little or no moral consideration. Suffering-preventing (or giving depending on how y...
July 05, 2023 at 21:37
Indeed, good point. Parents missionize de facto. Ironic that AN is accused of it, when by force their ranks are filled :wink:. AN simply says to stop ...
July 05, 2023 at 15:38
True, even Schopenhauer retreats to the self-fulfilling idea that Will will always will itself in various forms, so one cannot prevent it. Yet, at the...
July 05, 2023 at 15:26
As far as human-survival, we develop strong cultural beliefs that are enculturated, but surely that can be de-programmed by other ideas. The individua...
July 05, 2023 at 15:23