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Use the short version or the longer version, I don't care.

It's actually quite simple logic- so simple perhaps it sounds absurd? I don't know.. But let me break it down: 1) There is the possibility of birth (a...

So the statement: "Preventing birth has no effect (or affect) on anyone" is being out of touch with reality? Since when does holding that view lead to...

So even in your estimation of things (which is apparently weighing probabilities of possible future people's self-reported evaluations of life), the f...

The Schopenhaurian perspective is that art temporarily relieves us of our individuated will's. However, it is not that life is a means to an end, whic...

Actually, Schopenhauer's vision, whether you agree with it or not, is not just about hedonisitic calculus or the individual ego, but rather how we are...

Oh, I am just making the point that no matter how good a point I add, it's most likely not going to bring you to enlightened thinking on the matter. F...

You can grasp something and disagree with it, even if it is the truth. Sometimes, people both don't grasp it and don't agree with it. Either way, it h...

What about antinatalism, are you ranting against? Are you ranting that antinatalists don't persuade you? There are a lot of good points made by many p...

I don't really get what you are getting at.

Better to measure twice and cut once than to measure once and cut twice.

I don't know, I liken it to seeing the actual source of the light rather than the shadows. I mean, perhaps a society that commits human sacrifice by r...

I am not sure that you are characterizing the argument that antinatalists make correctly. I think the assumption is that life brings much harm, is ins...

Well, I am not sure about the lying but I think it can be justified that the antinatalists may think those who do not see their view may be overlookin...

Well, I'm not saying the antinatalist is wrong in thinking this though. Unless the antinatalist physically forces someone not to have a child, I don't...

For many antinatalists, I think that birth is a stand in for not just possible and unknown suffering that can or will occur, but has a large tie-in wi...

I guess you can try to be an ascetic. Or you deal with it like most people who don't feel they can get make it very far in that route. Schopenhauer su...

Yes, that will perhaps be the ultimate demise, but again, they supposedly wouldn't care at that point or right before they lose consciousness I guess.

For the record, it's easy to defend the common sense view of things and phrases like "everything in moderation, including moderation". This is what is...

The theory is that dissatisfaction comes from constant craving. I am not going to pretend that I can defend the whole corpus of ascetic thought. I'm s...

That's not what they think. Can we turn the rhetoric down from 11? Perhaps to a cool 2 or 3?

Though I don't practice nor necessarily think it to work towards its goal, I am trying to get a justification for why one might think that it could wo...

You'd have to ask Thorongil his reasoning. I think the point is to get off the merry-go-round of desire altogether. Whether that can actually happen, ...

That's just, like, your opinion man. Well, this thread seemed to talk about celibacy more than antinatalism so I am sticking to that. Yep, I didn't ad...

If you think about his premise, his reaction is logical. If his premise is a sort of Schopenhauerian view that we are sort of manifestations of will- ...

The problem is sensory information, precepts, and concepts- even if they emerge or are reducible to physical processes, do not have any link as to the...

You are simply betraying your biases for certain areas of philosophy. However, meaning of life, what makes the good life, what makes something valuabl...

Political participation and political agency are different ideas in my opinion and very complex. In a democratic society, anyone can participate. In a...

I find it interesting that if Maslow is partially right that humans have roughly the same kinds of generalized needs, that the needs being met are not...

You live this in practice or does it sound good in a forum? Sometimes I think we are trying to have the best sound bytes for a self-help article. What...

Aristotle wanted to look cool in front of his philosopher friends.

That is a bit fairytale sounding. A lot of time other circumstances are available, but they were not ranked as the most preferable. Again, I refer you...

Can you conceive of a circumstance where nothing simply works out? Some people don't have the capacity (even with effort), or do not have the right co...

You are not representing the scenario correctly though. It wasn't that the romantic relationship scenario was equal to the non-romantic relationship s...

I think TGW is saying all pleasures are inherently good, but this doesn't mean all pleasures are not dynamic. For example, a warm bath might be pleasu...

So I'm reading up more on Sellars, and I don't see how quale are addressed really. Rather, he seems to focus more on higher order thought whereby lang...

I'll read more Sellars.. I am dying to see how his inference-based economy is qualia (notice I don't say "leads to qualia" as that is not getting at t...

I call bullshit. I think this idea of concept and object is essentially an expanded version of subjectivity and objectivity and almost all metaphysics...

You asked why I don't like dealing with you, and these kind of remarks are one of several reasons. How is that not inflammatory? I'm sure your respons...

We can't think ourselves into a purely blissful state where nothing affects us. By definition, if we need to struggle and need some pain for meaning, ...

People get meaning out of a struggle or some sort of "cross to bear" People like pleasure. People might also find meaning in pleasurable things. Peopl...

What is good then? That doesn't make sense. Good is virtue is not like saying ice cream is ice cream. The latter is a fact, the former is an opinion. ...

Prove it is a brute fact.

I don't think you sufficiently answered my questions above and you make a few more perplexing claims. How is "virtue" good in itself other than self-r...

I don't see how this explains anything. Granted, nature follows certain "rules" especially at the biochemical and physical level- this is nothing new....

I must say that this is one of the reasons why this forum is so frustrating. You did this in the Stoicism thread as well. I am trying to have a dialog...

You are cherry-picking there. Please at least reply to the whole post, which had a bit more explanation than that one quote. If you read the post agai...

Much of these problems of concept and object are similar to those of emergence. Concept is object= (naive) realism = idea "emerges" out of objects. Ho...

True, I think people have a moral sense (stemming from a combo of environment and innate fairness), of justice, fairness, compassion, etc. However, I ...

Fair enough. I was just trying to address the issue of "meaning through suffering" that has become the usual retort when explaining away the problem o...