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Interesting mythos. I think Schopenhauer may have been less inclined to think of Will as so thoughtful or purposeful. It was blind, and thus from the ...

The Will seems its own Idea which seems to have a curious structure. He also adds gradations of Ideas into the picture. Why all of this? But I think S...

This is a good point. It is more of a tepid Will than a ferocious Will. But maybe, even if we can think of a worst possible world, this is actually ho...

I'm honestly not up to give a complete picture of my worldview right now correct, but providing Schop's view is a good stand in for now. You don't hav...

We are restless Will that strives for things. By necessity, time passes and strive for things.. yadayada.. oh hell with it.. Here is a good start so I...

Ok, so there is your definition of reasonable. Your conceit is now that there is a "nature of man" to be understood. That is a lump of clay anyone can...

Then what does your definition of reasonable entail? If you say that it follows the dictates of this metaphysical Reason that is behind all things, th...

I never understood how virtue is a reward unto itself. It's another Shibboleth to give meaning for what does not exist. Lust and listless pleasure for...

Based on the website I quoted above, it makes sense how it is that Idea exists in order to fulfill the Will's needs, but I guess my question is more f...

This website is a good summation of Schopenhauer's reasoning for why Idea exists in relation to Will: From http://philosophycourse.info/lecsite/lec-sc...

Yes but I am just wondering where the PSR fits into World as will. If world is Will, how does space, time, and causality exist as a structure outside ...

Thank you for your clear response that lays out your main arguments. I have a question that is sort of tangential but related. I have been curious as ...

I'm having a hard time trying to outline what your debate is about. Would you be able to break it down in more plain English? You two seem to have a k...

Another thing to be explained is how time/space/causality/PSR fits into Schop's model at all. If all is Will, then what the heck is the PSR in relatio...

Yes, I agree. He is a good example of someone who thinks that by claiming it to be an "illusion", that this makes the solution go away. However, the i...

Your objection here, is my same objection with any philosophy trying to explain the dualism of mental and physical. Person 1: Where is the mental aspe...

To put an anthropological spin on this.. all this talk of "white privilege" "power", "class", "law", "economics this and that", is all a very European...

I am guessing you are also considering the idea of evolution in all this as well? Organisms have survival strategies that are mainly about fulfilling ...

Can you explain this in more detail? This seems to be the Schopenhauerian notion that Will is the thing-in-itself, and our representations are manifes...

You seemed to ignore my post altogether.

Your mistake is tragic.. but my position does not even allow for a mistake. And a good life "missed"? Means nothing to no one. Really? Because your qu...

So, something as complex as a human life can be determined beforehand based on a few standards such as environment, and family the child is born into?...

So then, your conclusion is that some people will not be dissuaded by these mere emotions, and thus we should create new people? Despite the fact that...

Not really. I doubt most people of a certain age have not felt this feeling of ennui about life. It might take some longer than others, or certain exp...

Yes, hence why I use it to describe existence. The ends never end though. It is always a means to another end, and another end, and another end. If yo...

Instrumentality is the idea that at the end of the day, nothing is really necessary or fulfilling. Even when harms are at a minimum, we are simply str...

What is evil and how does it have to do with short-term pleasure? Most would say murder, genocide, rape, purposely hurting people, and such is evil, b...

You have to qualify "essential". That seems to have some baggage which you claim to reject. However, you can try to prove me wrong. If you mean that s...

Only from the perspective of this world we know. Also, perhaps your version of reality would have discord to make it less nightmarish. If you are a su...

Clearly his intuition does not think this is plain or obvious. What this gets at again is that people have axioms. The axioms may lead to some jarring...

You are bringing in ideas of discord. There would be no discord. An ideal world would indeed be alien to us. You could not even characterize it, becau...

One can still apply the asymmetry in non-absolutist terms, so I don't see how this really matters.

Do you think people get their axioms from divine on high? Whether people are influenced by other philosophers, their own inclinations, life experience...

Well, welcome to philosophy. There is no a priori argument that lacks basic axioms/assumptions. No math, no dialectics on ethics, etc. I wouldn't see ...

Meh. Splitting hairs, I say. Not really flawed, so can't agree with that. Well, I don't really care that other people think Benatar's arguments are no...

I think that is what he is kind of getting at. If you want to split hairs over "not bad" and a longer version of what you said to the effect of we pla...

I think he said something to the affect that, according to his logic, even a pinprick would not justify being born, if the initial state was not exist...

I never said there were not any initial assumptions. His assumptions are that ethics in the decision for procreation are only relevant when considerin...

But that is not the full argument. Benatar agrees that deprivation of pleasure is bad for actual people (or rather, the state of affairs where someone...

That only makes sense if you think that pain is good. Clearly Benatar and others think that pain is bad. Again, you also must include possibilities. I...

But, his point was that it is not bad if there is no actual person who is deprived of good. That is the counterfactual. It is good that there is no ac...

Benatar's asymmetry argument was something along the lines of the following: A state of affairs where there is a deprivation of pleasure is bad only i...

I always thought Nietzsche's idea that meaning needs pain is telling that one must choose between good old-fashioned "happiness" or "pleasure" or mean...

So at least you are willing to tone it down a bit. That's a start. "WORTHWHILE" with a definite head nod, becomes "worthwhile?" with a shrug and a que...

You must be very privileged if you think that all those things you describe comes without costs or with as much as you purport here. Sometimes I think...

Oh such the bitter enemy of antinatalism. The same old cliches. Antinatalism has many well-reasoned positions. Provide me with a label to throw at you...

Also, let me add in the point that not only are negative events created, but, as I explained earlier, experiences are often a private affair, ever-so-...

Creating a state of affairs where a new (another) life is created and thus is enabled/caused to be affected by any and all types of possible negative ...

I was saying that it affects both types of people who are born.

So now you know what I meant from my longer version explained above.. The affect of what on others? Being born causes there to be an affect on the per...