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I think there are a lot of neologisms in that work, so it is best to read it with secondary literature. However, you may find that it provides insight...

Yes, I'd like to see that. Sometimes one philosopher makes you think about another one differently. For example, Whitehead's actual occasions are not ...

Have you looked into Whitehead? His metaphysics seems like a good vehicle to concretize Schopenhauer's Will.

Well I think Whitehead would say, any material is a process (actual experience) that aggregates with other occasions (either democratically in non-org...

Here, here! This is a theme I was trying to convey in the other philosophy forums.

I get this idea. Do you agree then with Whitehead's speculative theory of actual occasions? All matter/energy is actually the cumulative process of ac...

I'm trying to understand the gist of what you are saying. So you think that some things interact and others do not? Those things that do not interact ...

That sounds a bit like Whiteheadian process philosophy. The only way we "know" objects interact is through subjectivity. Objectively interacting doesn...

That's not much of a consolation when someone is not happy. Good try though. Actually, it was better never to have lived in the first place, but now t...

Instrumentality is the concept that we are doing to do to do. Happiness is often temporary, is often frustrated, and leads to more suffering. The worl...

Read Schopenhauer or just read about any one of my posts on Schopenhauer, Philosophical Pessimism in general, or antinatalism.. You are starting to ge...

Good point, I'm sure apokrisis will want to field that one.

Yep and Yep

Fair enough, it is a very obtuse philosophy. The basics are relatively easy, but I have some questions that cannot be answered without more technical ...

Post-industrial society is about choosing an identity. It's just window dressing. Your comparison to the Amish is more effective, but disliking one of...

By being born, it's telling us that various projects of life are supposed to be followed through and carried out. Thus, suicide, though an option, is ...

It was meant to be an open-ended sophomoric question (as I eat my munchies). So why is it important? What makes it a charade? Charade from what?

I didn't! Your claim is that Will cannot "do" things in causal like-fashion. If the world of appearances are an illusion, then the illusion must be ac...

I was giving a speculative history of virtue. That wasn't the crux of the argument. My argument actually agrees with you. Progress doesn't give a mean...

I'd have to understand this more thoroughly to comment on this and compare to Schopenhauer because this could be misinterpreted very easily. Can you e...

I've used some Heidegger before to get at themes that Schopenhauer touches upon. My spin on his idea of ready-to-hand is when we concentrate on a task...

I am not linking progress to virtue per se. What I'm saying is that perhaps at some point in ancient history, it was perceived that having certain "vi...

Can you explain how his ideas of ready-at-hand and present-at-hand are related to his ideas of Being undergoing radical shifts in history? Ready-at-ha...

Wow you just made me think of how Schopenhauer's view of character being inborn can be related to Sartre's authenticity. Perhaps Sartre's radical free...

It would misrepresent Schopenhauer to view him as strictly deterministic. Motivation is a complicated thing though, and in his views, one of the four ...

What do you think of what do you think of my last post because that more clearly stated what I was trying to get at than the OP.

I'm not sure if you saw, but I made a comment above that might have clarified what I am talking about.

Ok, so I thought about it more and I realized what I might be getting at. It is the theme of instrumentality and progress. Let me explain: First, I wa...

That is a good summation of the two sides. Clearly, I tend to take the side of Schopenhauer, who is more nuanced than simply saying Will is a restrict...

I think we should make a distinction here between progress: forward or onward movement toward a destination. versus progress: advance or develop towar...

I sort of see where your going, but you are going to have to lay down a more explicit explanation for your own point of view in contrast to Schopenhau...

It is more than mere Platonic universals in Schopenhauer's conception. Will is like an inner force that strives but with no aim. I think he vascilates...

Actually he does just that as one of his main proofs for Will in his book 2 of the World as Will and Representation. It is not just motivations but vo...

This is why I made a separate thread about illusion. The "knowledge" part- the "illusion" has to be accounted for. It "exists" in some way. This illus...

Certainly the Schopenhauer's Will can be found in our own striving nature which is hard to simply deny by fiat. Our own striving is something immediat...

Of course, "judging correct or incorrect" being the crux. If there are different criteria for this, then even that statement cannot be made. Why is th...

Since we are essentially talking about the same thing, why don't we move this conversation to the "This Old Thing" thread.

Yeah, but the Fourfold Root only applies to the world of representation- it cannot be applied to Will itself. Also, since we are talking about when "t...

No, I get it. That was a very good explanation of Schopenhauer's Will and its relationship to representation. Actually, I think I am going to quote yo...

I guess @"Ciceronianus the White" passed the baton to you? Ok.. Then you miss the point that Schopenhauer made which is a furtherance of Kant's point ...

So any a priori philosophy is illegitimate, and since empirical science does not answer the question either, we should move on. How is it that it tell...

By that I mean, anything that is not Peirce. So how is it idle? You just explained the theory and framed it in a negative way. That's fine, I guess yo...

Right, because no one else wants clarity or has clarity using any other methodology. We are all just flies in the bottle, and you are releasing the fl...

Why do you think we are "best off" applying Peirce's maxim to mind, self, and consciousness? And why even comment on it if we should just "get on with...

Sounds about right for Dennett.

Yeah, there are some assumptions where it might not be explained very completely, especially about unity of Will. As you stated, he uses a negative th...

Existence itself is metaphorical for Will. But there is still Will and Metaphor (representation). What I fear is that Will is being used as a magical ...

Right, so ever present "knowing subject". The knowing is the keyword here. The thing is, in this construct, it seems he is saying that even though it ...

That's fine, but how about the prospect of an ever present organism or ever present "something" by which representation must subsist? I get ever prese...

Hence the oddity of an ever present organism.. If all is Will, and there is nothing but Will, the organism for which representations exist such that t...