You bring up some good points about our ability to forget past pain. David Benatar talked about this phenomenon in his book Better Never to Have Been....
Well, I do believe in the freedom of people to do what they believe on this matter. However, what I'm saying is similar to what I said to csalisbury. ...
True, but as I stated, "Nothingness never hurt anyone". Why "disturb" this by creating a new being of experience? Also related, you must admit that li...
I believe I addressed it with my last post by highlighting the fact that you are moving the goal post. I’m at the level of individual actor decisions ...
It’s simply the most logical reaction for individual actors to sufferings existence, and the realization that “no person” is never harmed. I care not ...
The crux of the argument doesn’t rely on granular unalloyed ratios. Alloyed mixed in shit is of unquantifiable ratios doesn’t erase that shit is mixed...
If they were as sentient as us and can evaluate their own condition as they were living it out, they too can decide the best course is to not procreat...
I’m thinking at the margins, not the whole pie. It’s the decision of the individual. For example, one persons meat eating does not negate another’s ve...
What if I said I predicted this idea was going to be brought forward? But anyways, yeah yeah the human experience is too complicated for category, but...
Good questions. By the way, as @"Joshs" mentioned, you seem very empathetic. Thank you for reaching out and trying to help. I appreciate that. I just ...
I appreciate that @"leo" seems to be kind enough to try to reach out to what he probably sees as a troubled soul. At least online, he seems like a kin...
It is bad for them too. I don't take much stock in self-reports at a particular time/place. Benatar did a good job indicating our psychological mechan...
What happens if life really is bad. We tend to psychologize the badness and make it YOUR problem or MY problem. If it is your or my then it is not A p...
Also, this kind of got off tangent and became about psychological states of flow, etc. What the main point is in a nutshell is that some people think ...
Yes, there is minutia mongering at all levels. Remember, much of this view is simply cynical devil's advocate- trying to play the opposite view to mak...
I've discussed "flow" states many a-time. I KNEW someone was going to bring that up as some form of rebuttal about my idea of generalization, or to co...
Schopenhauer called this initial state "Will'. Ok, I'll go with this schema. It is the burden of these desires (that lead to more minutia) that I am c...
@"Joshs" @"Old" @"TheMadFool"@"fdrake"@"Number2018"@"Bitter Crank"@"darthbarracuda" Minutia mongering in general can be different things in different ...
The minutia is where the job gets done. Those who know how to monger minutia to get shit done, can claim they are doing the real work. Everyone else i...
That's ok, I don't necessarily want to delve into this, but I have read a lot on this subject and understand the major historiographies of this subjec...
Yeah, I was just trying to say a quick statement. But, I think it is pretty clear from reading Acts, Galatians, and noting what the Ebionites said of ...
If it is a totalizing way of living that is supposed to come from a deity or "His" representatives, then it is a religion. This particular religion ma...
This is a bit dubious though. One of my themes is that humans don't just "do" things like "work", but we KNOW we do things like work. We are a product...
@"Joshs" One of the many things that I guess I'm trying to say here is the importance weighted to various topics or "ways of" thought. There may be a ...
Heidegger has always been obtuse to me. What I've gleaned from his "ready" and "present" at hand along with broken tool is more-or-less summed up in t...
You mentioned Heidegger. He wrote about the broken-tool phenomenon. Humans are uniquely dependent, upon tools. Yes, we do this from habituated means, ...
You can’t do anything with Beethoven’s music besides emotional edification or inspiring more music. Is it genius? Yes. Is it talent? Yes. But it’s not...
It is widely understood to use but not the minutia of creating. That is for the minutia mongerer who makes real and useful functions from the science,...
Technology means the application of scientific principles, mixed with math, and physical materials are used in such a way as to create functional item...
Art doesn’t make the things happen, technologies do. Those who don’t mind the minutia and REVEL in it are the ones that make the technology. They are ...
The blather doesn't matter. We are here to support technology. People's enjoyments of the products of technology is just a way towards more technology...
I get you, but all of this nonsense and unnecessary noise relies on the underpinnings of technology. How do they communicate their blather? From the p...
:rofl: But the details are where the action happens. Keep your eyes on the details, make your 80k, live comfortably and the world turns. The people us...
Yes, that is it. When you want to talk about "big boy" things, you talk about the "work" you do. The useful things you do that support the techno-indu...
But that's the thing! The minutia-mongerer doesn't care (or need!) intellectual underpinnings. His/her formulas and applications speak for themselves....
Yes, there is some strong cynicism here, but I'm trying to be convincing :smile:. However, what I am doing is similar to doing hard work out of spite ...
Yes but that's what makes these guys superior. I call it "minutia-mongering". Those who not only tolerate, but REVEL in complex mathematical formulas,...
Yes the de facto fact is that all need technology. Those who can actually engineer, solve, and experiment in the science/technology realm are thus aut...
But what I mean by meaning, is in a way, a sense of superior understanding of the world, and the self-assurance that one is doing something that actua...
Indeed this is very close to what I'm getting at. The de facto nature of being able to DO the hard maths and science that WORKS being deemed as superi...
Nice Ligotti quote. Yes, you are getting close to my main point. There is also the nuance that being able to UNDERSTAND and DO the maths involved is i...
Nothing matters more than a mathematically derived formula that “works” in predicting a physical event or creating a useful technology. You can put th...
But look at the complexity of statements like this: Doesn’t that count for something? Doesn’t the fact that the process to create a microchip being so...
Its not all desire for survival- it is also desire to seek more comfortable and entertaining states. Survival, comfort, and boredom are the three grea...
They are absurd in that we cannot escape our own need for need, and when seen as a whole, it is instrumental for more instrumentality. It is like seei...
It is the obligations of living that I find interestingly tragic. The obligations being any choice or decision to do anything. As Schopenhauer said- t...
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