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"What" is this "fiction we get into the habit of acknowledging"? You are making the mistake of thinking the "illusion" refers to the cause rather than...

So while this is interesting, this has more to do with easy problems like cognition and the role of symbolic representation. The hard question goes be...

That was sort of the point I was trying to make here: The system we have now relies on jobs. It doesn't discriminate on what kind. The way resources a...

Yes indeed. It happens on that granular level and also as a wider phenomena. For example, revolutions work as a sort of way to "break out" of historic...

It's the tension between being evolved with a (for all practical purposes) "boundless" set of thoughts, reactions, behaviors, etc. yet an institutiona...

On a related note regarding your remarks on Illusionism- I have similar thoughts on it. To say "consciousness is an illusion" is to not explain the il...

That seems a bit redundant, like he is repeating what communication is with information. So information is then something like the success of communic...

Just a clarification question here: What would be the difference then between the definition of communication and information in this conception? I do...

That is a bad analogy. Preventing people, prevents suffering. Not making a sandwich doesn't prevent anyone from eating. Well, this is nuanced. Philoso...

This argument is ridiculous. You don't need a person to actually exist to prevent an actual person from suffering. Let's say that instead of the more ...

I'm glad they were of interest. Sure, here are the original threads they came from: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/71045 https://th...

So I think this is close to the history.. I posted two pretty plausible (more historical-minded) theories a couple times on this forum. They are both ...

Ok, but then where does this valuative element come from? It's still not answering the hard question of why value at all. What I mean is, how are brai...

So this isn't quite the hard problem though. The hard problem is basically, "How are physical states (like brain states) equivalent to mental states (...

Actually that is an excellent article and he raises exactly issues that I'm talking about. I have heard of IIT and Tononi and Koch's attempt at using ...

I can see this in a sort of mass media sense. For example, Trump says "fake news" and this distorts his follower's trust of media. Then news itself ju...

Here's a question: Does "information" at all solve anything related to the hard question of consciousness? Specifically, I am thinking of qualia. I am...

I would agree that they suffer. However, similar to humans not forcing the view on other humans, the same goes for chimps and other animals. There is ...

Another related theme here is what I call "minutia-mongering". By being brought into the world as a public entity, one is forced into the minutia-mong...

I always thought Terrence Deacon's ideas on information were interesting.

Interesting point. So how do you particularly think the lying promotes alienation?

So one of my questions is whether any socio-economic system is good for the individual, since the individual is essentially used as labor by said syst...

That's the point. There is nothing to "play". Just prevent suffering, period. If there's no one to prevent suffering anymore, then so what?

I claimed it is using people for a third-party entity- namely the production/consumption functions of a system. Whether growth happens doesn't matter,...

It's not angry or not angry. It's "is" this the state of affairs or not? It's not so much advertisements or consumerism, the kind you hear all the tim...

I am intrigued by the idea of "communal pessimism". Perhaps COVID will initiate a communal philosophical pessimism of sorts where we agree that our ow...

Ad hom and you haven't paid attention to my arguments. That's the point of me posting other quotes. I've made my points pretty clear and you are sligh...

And I've answered this type of argument before too:

So I already answered this as well:

I don't have the delusion that I'm going to necessarily change minds. I engage in discourse for similar reasons of flushing out ideas, honing them, or...

I have said just recently:

Right, it's "only" costs of labor and capital to produce more of the goods. Hehe.

It's a misnomer or misconception to think that antinatalists or philosophical pessimism's only stance is anti-suffering. I would imagine most antinata...

Right.. and the that is actually more social controls. The outcomes of those goals is more production and consumption. It is the aggregate.. The indiv...

Yes, well-put. Through the mechanisms of evolution, there is a species who can recognize itself regarding its own motives, and ponder why it does anyt...

Ok, so what else do you think are the goals of the society? I did keep the questions open-ended in my OP. However, I will probably continue the case t...

@"Baden" . So should we give shit to Plato for being so narrowly focused on the idea of the Ideas? Should we give shit to Aristotle only zeroing in on...

Proof? Look how much consumption and production is expected and reinforced. You see, it's not that hard to see evidence of it. I'm not going to let yo...

I mean that we are always needing and wanting or the most part. Always becoming never being.

Yes, that is the invisible hand at work. The pastor and therapist "thinks" they are doing X, but really it is to provide function Y. Similarly, drinki...

Good quote, Zeus. The only addendum here I have to add is this quote implies that there is some solution or salvation to be had. "If only we designed ...

So part of my premise is occupations like pastors and therapists are Western society's way of making people feel well-adjusted (or feel meaning enough...

I'm not trying to say I agree with the premise all motives are goals. In this case it is boredom eating. That is a reason in itself- boredom. You were...

Life itself forces us to have demands on others and them on us. This forces us have to consume and produce. What's the point of putting anyone in this...

Honestly, those are rare moments. You can pretend to sit like a Buddha, but you're gonna get up for that bag of chips. And no- I betcha can't eat just...

That doesn't seem right. The purpose of moral claims is to define what is moral. Increasing moral behavior is not entailed in all moral claims. Anyway...

Ah, but you are inadvertently hitting on my point! Humans, unlike other animals, and the rest of nature have goals, but as you state, they are arbitra...

Another example of what I'm saying is looking at reporting on economic activity. To the public- businesses, managers, customers, researchers, reporter...

So what is this referencing?

Are you talking about US government's programs to increase programs in math and science?