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No we're not. I know perfectly well what you meant. You said: I take it to mean that the striving in itself has a higher meaning. If Camus means "rebe...

Didn't address the problem with your question of why justification is needed in the first place on this issue particularly (as compared to any other i...

Causing conditions for which people will experience suffering, is a weighty matter, a moral one. At the least it is a core existential question that o...

If you can't beat em, join em even harder, with more enthusiasm is just not knowing where else to go, and also a not-so-subtle "man-up!" philosophy.. ...

As I just said in another thread: Contra Nietzsche's maniacal howls, no this universe with its pain is not utopia. Again, maniacal embracing of what a...

A) Besides some rough estimate at the end of one's life, I don't think one can really tell their own estimate if their life on whole was a net benefit...

C'mon. So any action is justified?

If we are deciding that we should continue another person (a next generation), and one of the considerations is suffering. Why on Earth would you thin...

But this is the exact justification for procreation that I am arguing against. Perhaps it is unjustified to create new people in a reality that has an...

I think his point is that missed "benefits" are not "bad" unless an actual person is deprived of them. However, he sees missed "negatives" as indeed A...

If we know pain and suffering exist, why then would it be justified to bring more people into a world with known and unknown amounts of pain and suffe...

Is it justified to bring someone into a world where there is suffering? Suffering can be defined subjectively or objectively here, it wouldn't matter....

@"180 Proof" If we know the world has known and unknown amounts of suffering, what is the justification of bringing people into this? I suspect people...

Good example. Yes exactly.

I meant in relation to preventing it for future generations (by not having them). It's too late for us. We are in the pain boat. And again, I don't th...

What do you think? I do not think pain/suffering is redemptive.

We have agency to prevent pain. Whether the pain is some yin-yang with positive moments, you can make a decision to prevent future people from pain. J...

That would assume we are all in a scheme of yin-yang with no self-agency. For example, If pain is necessary for pleasure (which I still don't think is...

Assuming the person doesn't die from it (that's not overcoming it then, would it?) the theory goes that she would be better for it. Maybe no one would...

What dont you understand?

Yep.

And my reply would be the same.

How do you know who or when someone would fall apart prior to their birth? If its about "manning up" then why is thst a value people must be exposed t...

Is it "must" because there is no other choice? In other words, if one does not, then we are all doomed? Or, is it a moral imperative? In other words, ...

We could try for intentional non-procreation. Give it a try!

What makes life worth living again and again, is really the question. It's more, why go through the routine of it, not just the fact that one can feel...

Spreadsheets.

But did these regional distinctions take place before or after the Viking era? I would imagine it was minor differences the further back you go and th...

What's interesting is how the Viking kingdoms turned into various nation-states after conversion to Christianity. Can you elaborate on that process an...

You can make an argument that Marxism has an existential aspect. Because its based on Hegel's dialectic, there is some sort of end-phase to history an...

I never understood either of these positions. So conservatism is conserving what great thing really? All I see is a maintaining shit so you can produc...

Depends on the animal. A rabbit is probably closer to innate. If you mean innate knowledge of what to do, no. The ability to deduct, inference, predic...

So this is the real issue. Since we are an animal of social constructs (mediated through a highly plastic brain), we can deliberate and constantly str...

Excellent video! I like his quote at the end, "It wears on you over time- that's life".

And thus further... There is the popular notion that we need the suffering to experience a feeling of overcoming the suffering. The pessimist would re...

Um no, just looking at that, there needs to be explanation. The opposite of non-existence isn't necessarily a roller coaster. So maybe something like ...

But what's with the nonexistence and roller coaster? The problem is that these aren't necessarily symmetrical. There could be anything in these quadra...

But again, "classic pessimism" is oriented towards seeing the world's unfulfilled needs causing dissatisfaction. I don't really understand the chart. ...

So "classic pessimism" (as I'll call it) views life as constantly in deprivation of something. The deprivation naturally indicates unfulfillment or in...

It's just dealing with one damn thing after another. And then we are supposed to like the game because there's no choice.

ok

Humans socially construct almost all cultural elements- which we use to survive. That's assuming animals can have "reasons" in ways that humans do. Th...

No, this is an assumption you are making about my argument. I never said human consciousness is the highest degree.. That is an assertion, ok. I hadn'...

Granted, but I mean literally, how does it look for a pastoral people to turn farmer? What would a hypothetical generation of change of this economic ...

@"Gus Lamarch"

Yeah, I don't really have any qualm calling it a "Dark Age", one of many in human history. Dark Ages tend to be ages that occur after flourishings. Th...

True, though I thin the "Dark Ages" in Europe had a slower progression of change than say the 500 years after the Renaissance. But I guess my question...

So it is this weird in between time in Europe, between the Roman fall and the rise of feudalism, roughly about 400 CE- 900 CE, whereby the (often) mig...