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I think the Gnostics were simply unintentionally early advocates of the Many Worlds Hypothesis in theoretical physics :D. As I said to MoK:

This all makes no sense, so I'll leave you to your own musings unless you want to explain your use of "against wisdom" here. Also, why would a perfect...

My only suggestion from the View of Pessimism is as I laid out in another thread: @"Tom Storm" asked me for my response to the problems of modern secu...

The darker version of this is Mainlander's god: But perhaps most notions of god are actually like a meme or mind virus with inbuilt mechanisms. If you...

You remind me of a philosophical David Sedaris :rofl: . Witty, yet insightful. Here's a more recent article of his from The Atlantic: https://www.newy...

I think you missed the entire idea behind #1. I think Schopenhauer's point is that something akin to a Hegel-Marx materialist solution to human dissat...

Well, you kind of answered the first part with the last part of your post. Why the need for motivation? You well know the Schopenhauerian insight into...

I had a prior post that went over these two notions of utopia- a sort of metaphysical one and hedonistic one...

Oh meant to add @"Banno" to the above too.

So to answer the question, yes I it would be.. Here is my reasoning: Contention: An all knowing, all perfect being would be nowhere near anything like...

If someone gives Trump a thumbs up, must mean he’s right :roll:. “Cant deny the rightness of a statement is determined by someone agreeing with someon...

Like the Cult of the Grinning Martyrs?

As long as suffering exists, life itself is a questionable endeavor- hence the Pessimists (and antinatalists) position. You will find no other philoso...

So I guess it’s the supposition. What if a god likes seeing his subjects navigate various forms if suffering like a game? From the human pov, that cou...

Then back to my points earlier about a god that can’t create a universe where joy and no suffering exist. God wants this universe to have suffering. A...

Not in a universe that was perfectly attuned such that being happy and not suffering wasn’t boring. Seems odd to trade boredom for suffering and not r...

Right, that's how it works in this universe, let's say. But I am not arguing that this universe (at least for the sake of this argument) doesn't work ...

But if God was all loving and all knowing and all powerful, could he not create a universe whereby pure joy and satisfaction does not require his subj...

I think, BC, that this question reveals an even more disturbing question- what kind of god wants his creations to suffer? This is where the Lovecrafti...

Well, Nazism and Communism led to American hegemony. When Communism fell in the Soviet Union, you had Yugoslavian breakup, ethnic wars in Africa, comm...

I mean I agree with all of this. I am not sure why a poster's hatred for the US and its inevitable hegemony after the Cold War would lead to rooting f...

Well you said the point I am making much more clearly, you keep doing that :D. :up: But yep, I hope is paying attention!

Why would God, all knowing, powerful, perfect being care about duty of his creation to himself? Seems again like a petty human trait :chin:. Odd, how ...

Just curious, why would an all powerful god outsource that? And if the answer is he wants to see some puddly apes play out some vision, why would an a...

I guess my point regarding the moves made in the 20th century is that sometimes being neutral or doing very little to increase spending, resources, an...

Ooh this feels very much in the discussions of the Speculative Realists like Graham Harmon’s Object-Oriented Ontology:

It would seem the Netherlands’ whole history would have had to be radically different in the 20th century for it to have a more powerful/independent p...

Why the operation though? There is a book Conspiracy Against the Human Race. Humans are operatives in something else’s operation. It is a bit like how...

No, I don't think I missed the point with the distinction. Rather, you are simplifying my point. It isn't JUST effort (like the Jersey Shore sweating ...

Also, in a Platonic idea of "Higher" and "Lower" if Goodness comes in various forms, then you can see this in gradations... sex for fun < sex with lov...

Indeed, there is a Platonic or even just Aristotlean notion to this. Anytime there is an idea of "Higher" and "Lower" pleasures, it seems to allude to...

I do find it interesting that these are all veiled forms of superssessionism.. Let's look at some: God is love from Book of John.. Arguably, John can ...

Dude bro, you said the most dismissive trivialized version of Pessimism I've seen in a while right here and I countered it. You said: Go F off then if...

And there should be a thread for Nietzsche answers.. All answers that implicitly refer to NIetzschean "pain is gain" straight to that thread. Can we p...

Standards (aka ethics) are binding because of their rightness, not because the person espousing them follows them or not. If practically, it sucks to ...

Yes we've been over the notion of the philosophies of acceptance and denial. I don't see satisfaction-attaining as a matter of hypothetical imperative...

So I guess what I am getting at is there is an implicit assumption in the idea of standard setting. Surely, children need standards. What are standard...

If you are referring to how Linino responded, it seems so yes.

We are all established conclusions because we had no say in it brotha ;). The choice to not even have to exit is not a choice. As Cioran put it: By th...

Excellent observations :D. Add to the nattering classes the Nietazscheans. There is a strand of optimism that thinks like this: https://global.discour...

In this example I would question infinitum, the circular thinking in why a person needs to be taught to not smoke in the first place, taking the examp...

:down: Nah, I actually answered that line of thinking quite handily. ;).

This argument fails on multiple levels, not only in its understanding of suffering but also in its attempt to trivialize the profound and universal na...

My point was that the very act of "upbringing" is a sort of ethic itself. No one existed beforehand to need to be brought up. Wants and desires lead t...

:up: Indeed, they see themselves perhaps in the very things they deem to keep "at bay". It's their own demons they are projecting, perhaps. There's a ...

All I can say is you represent the common religionists view of things. What about this theory is compelling for you? When I use compelling here, it is...

You must first ask yourself what it is the parent wants out of the child by procreating them in the first place? If it is to instill values so that th...

Looks like you quoted something I did not say, and then left the room with no real contribution except, "It's complex". Well yes, indeed. And as I sai...

You seem to have no justification for your last claim. Religion fails as well. I am not saying religion provides THE meaning. The humanist can claim t...

Good observations and question. If the question is one of meaning, what is the humanist offering on the table? I can definitely tell you though, relig...