I think so. You can still say something like, "Oh look at me here.. I am desiring X, but yet another bubble of dissatisfaction being acted upon. If on...
Also, if I said, "You have a stoic look on your face today" and then said "See I know the philosophy of Stoicism".. I hope you would make the distinct...
I didn't say it was common, I am saying there is a distinction though. You can't just lump it together in a philosophy forum and call it good. If you ...
No, no, and no. Common place pessimism is a disposition, a personality-trait perhaps, or even a mood. It is not the same as philosophical pessimism. T...
You MUST differentiate the difference between dispositional (commonplace) notions of pessimism and philosophical pessimism proper (e.g. Schopenhauer/B...
I'm not sure about unresolved, but it seems like the ideal state for Plato/Buddha/Schopenhauer seems to be one of changeless stasis of sorts. In Plato...
I've written hundreds of posts on the non-identity argument against antinatalism. A future person would exist otherwise that would be harmed. I can re...
You'd have to explain that. Pessimism doesn't mean an utter inability to do what one doesn't want to. I should get a shirt that says "Most people". Mo...
But it's stopping other people from creating new people. It's not stopping other people from doing what they want to themselves. Antinatalism is about...
True true on all of this. I don't have much to add except that in hindsight it looked like people were watching this in slow motion but weren't acting...
Yeah, it's clear they didn't know how serious this was going to be. It looks like they thought this would be more like a localized SARS. However, by t...
True, so having the right people in the forefront of the subject matter that is at hand. Don't listen to an economist regarding an issue of public hea...
Well, it's good to know there were people there giving their more accurate predictions. I just wonder what it would take from a leader to listen to th...
So we've argued this point before.. You are going to do the lifeguard argument, I presented what I thought about that. Is that where you are going wit...
Right, so that's why I don't get what's the point of commenting. We've argued more or less the same things before. Also it's going to now be Tom possi...
But can Tom make his own arguments? Now this changes the path this takes. I dont think his comments are necessarily an echo chamber. Its not like you ...
It concerns me that people want to see behaviors and thus create people to see them carried out. A bizarre political move. But it is political as it i...
To be fair, I think the virus was in the US MUCH earlier than in March. However, you are making excuses. Once that shit was seen to be out of China, i...
That's totally correct. To have the most narcissistic person in power of the executive branch during a pandemic that is about how others are affected....
Yes, but his ideal for this was generally as a socially-conscious person..But I get what you're saying.. Either way, one represents actively embracing...
IF you want a whole thread on the subject of the phrase "thrown into the world" and how it's used as a colloquialism, not a metaphysical statement, se...
For US that wouldn't have been early enough. Someone would have had to declare it before even the WHO did, and that takes real insight and wisdom that...
Yes, but just pointing out that this wouldn't be the salvation-worldview of Schop. Maslow is essentially saying that "there is somewhere to go, and so...
I'm talking about when this first began.. the real shutdown that should have happened at the very beginning. I wonder if there was anyone advocating f...
Less people who suffer and forced into X system that can be negatively evaluated. If one cares about the ethic, then one advocates strongly for it. Th...
I'm interested in your thoughts on the first point though.. No one from either side of the aisle would have advocated mass shutdowns of international ...
And here inevitably implicit weird justifications of the following ensue: 1. Protestant work ethic.. people need to be laborers so they can be happy l...
Yet having a child shouldn't be about the person having the child, but the child itself. It affects someone else.. They could also meditate and take a...
To make it more succinct: Having children is essentially pressing more people into the system. Preventing birth is not pressing more people into the s...
Pretty much addressed in OP: 1) Social structures of economic, political, cultural institutions that de facto need to be entered into in order to surv...
Maslow seems to be the antithesis of Schopenhauer here.. Maslow is buying into the scheme of becoming, in Hegelian fashion (someone Schopenhauer despi...
I am saying that by procreating people, you are willing (or unwitting) participants in perpetuating your socio-economic-cultural institutions (includi...
Not sure how "subversive" that is. It is contributing, just in a different way and would make the country stronger in the long-run. Don't see how that...
Doesn't help when a self-obsessed narcist who knew the extent but purposely downplayed the severity of the situation to bolster his image and Wall Str...
I guess I was just trying to give the best quote to highlight the OP's questions. He likens a sort of unrest/motionless/Platonic realm as a sort of "t...
Well, I did say "unwitting" participant's too. Most likely they will contribute to the economy in some way, even if they write some "revolutionary" bl...
So I think other posters have stated it too, but Schopenhauer's main metaphysics is that of dissatisfaction and unrest. Thus, he was giving a sort of ...
@"Albero"@"180 Proof"@"Bitter Crank"@"norm"@"Tom Storm" So one of the other main points with the political slant here is that when a parent decides to...
You're in luck! I am a full-blooded, card-carrying philosophical pessimist :D. So you do bring up some interesting points. I think from one perspectiv...
True.. But I think there's actually a broader point that oddly @"NOS4A2" brought up. One of the simple reasons that AN is a non-starter for most is it...
This kind of statement would definitely give a second pause to whether this is a good idea. I guess, if no one is born (yet), other than the parent's ...
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