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The way you take something, such as a cookie, is with your arm/hand. But how do you actually do this if taking is something your arm and hand do? Does...

Sure, but the issue is that taking something is a function of your arm/hand. Given this, how can you take something that's not your arm/hand?

Isn't the idea here that art, perhaps to count as art in the first place, amounts to not taking things in their literal, everyday, mundane senses?

An extremely long-winded way to say that geometry is based on the practical techniques of tasks such as surveying?

The answer I'm looking for is you telling me how you can take a cookie if taking is something that your arm/hand does. Think about it for a moment. Th...

Doesn't he mean that care, as a basis of ethics, appeals to you?

This is what I was saying in the other thread where the cave allegory came up. The shadows, etc. are just as real as anything else.

Seriously, by the way, I think free will is important for making the simplest choices we can make.

The idea behind it is simply that nothing is made correct merely by agreement about it. Agreement is just agreement. It doesn't make or change objecti...

To suggest that a consensus has any implication for "right" normatives is to commit the argumentum ad populum fallacy. So no, I wouldn't at all agree ...

To choose whether to put on a Zappa or Stravinsky album.

So I agree that normatives are "about how things should or ought to be, how to value them, which things are good or bad, and which actions are right o...

If it's an "ought" utterance, it's a normative by definition. That's what normatives are. That doesn't make it true, or a(n objective) fact or anythin...

A preference about how people should behave. The person is telling you how they feel about interpersonal behavior.

Aka "pretending that we can define God into existence."

I don't know how you're reading me as suggesting something contra the is-ought problem. In other words, I was saying that foundational moral stances c...

Sure. Foundational moral stances have to be emotional, because they're preferences re "how people should behave." And yeah, rationality and emotions a...

Choosing a purpose always struck me as akin to choosing a favorite color, favorite food, favorite musical artist, etc. I like a lot of different thing...

You'd have to explain how that follows. If the evening star ("Hesperus") were necessary because, say, strong determinism were true, would that imply t...

I'm saying things far more specific about "explanations," actually. And part of it is that if S is going to issue an argument that hinges on whether s...

If taking is all in your arm/hand, then how do you take something like a cookie? This isn't a rhetorical question. I want you to think about it and an...

The questions you quoted from me above this response weren't rhetorical. Could you answer them?

Common language is how it really works for understanding what "seeing" refers to. Again, what in the world are you taking "seeing" to imply, so that i...

Are you thinking of "seeing" as referring to something literally touching your eye, akin to tactile contact? (If so, follow-up questions would be why ...

The only way that this would suggest that you don't see the tree to you is that you don't at all understand the notion of "seeing" in common language....

"We don't actually see the (objective) tree" isn't how it's supposed to work.

Seeing involves light, obviously. So how in the world would you take that fact to be against the notion of seeing a tree? Is this some sort of game wh...

You can't seriously be mystified at how that's supposed to work.

You don't perceive perceiving. You don't take taking. You don't throw throwing. You don't perceive your mind. You dont take or throw your hand/arm. Yo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5phOvso6w

I don't mind to take him as sincere, but it does seem like pulling teeth to try to get to any focused discussion about anything. I know this won't hel...

The above is why I don't like for us to do long posts, by the way. Now we've got nine or ten different issues to discuss. If you respond even longer t...

Again, the view you described is representationalism. Maybe there are some differences between your views and representationalism, but you haven't det...

On my view you're not perceiving your own mind. I explained this above. That's just like you're not taking your own hand when you take a cookie. Your ...

How about a more substantive reply? Maybe offering reasons that you believe representationalism? Maybe addressing my attempts to straighten out the co...

I wish you'd give a more substantive reply . . . but in any event, to repeat: "You're basically assuming that if someone is familiar with Kant, then t...

I didn't realize it was abandoned . . . what did they do with all of those school buses? Haha. I was actually glad that I was bused to the schools I w...

That's the point I'm making. Shadows and images are something, they're "things-in-themselves"--discarding them via just arbitrarily or by fiat putting...

How would you make it?

Jesus you're a moron. I'm not saying anything about buses impacting anything (aside from whether folks go to their neighborhood schools). Either it's ...

??? When I went to school, busing was common. You didn't go to the school in your neighborhood just because it was the school in your neighborhood. Th...

The worse for the Republic then. By what criteria would we be saying that some occurrences are things in themselves and some aren't?

You don't have a true belief that Mary is "married to a postman, any postman." Your belief is that she's married to the postman who happens to be you....

"the books we see," "the puppets," "the images on the wall," etc. are actually things in themselves.

As I relay in some of the posts you weren't interested in, there's no way that I'm doing an argument with anyone about explanations if we don't establ...

Does an "end value" (versus whatever else--"basic value?") distinction really hold water? What distinction are we supposing?

Not sure what that means, boethius. So is busing not common any longer?

It's been a long time since I was in grade school/jr high/high school, but at the time, busing was big in the name of integration. You often went to s...

As did I.

I don't agree with that part. Determining that it's right or wrong to you could be when you cement your values in relation to the issue.