Terrapin Station

Simply being interested in things other than ourselves. Well, or it's just that you can observe a rock, or the ocean, or whatever, and be interested i...

Re a blueprint of how color experiences work, we have a lot of research in the vein of this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10651872 If that sort...

You simply said "zero understanding with regard to consciousness." The neural correlates of consciousness aren't something with regard to consciousnes...

I'll participate as I can, but I don't want to lead a reading group.

That statement doesn't make any sense to me. What undefined words are you referring to? Why would you say "how language is learned as a whole"? There'...

Here's one of hundreds of examples we could reference re science understanding something about consciousness: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article...

At any rate, so hopefully you understand my view better. Is there anything you believe would be difficult to account for under my view?

False. Let's start with that.

The "as opposed to" option was "having no one in the office."

No description is like what it's a description of.

Just how stupid/inexperienced/unfamiliar with philosophy are you figuring I am?

Of course. That's obviously how meaning works. Probably don't be so literal about the phrase "break down."

Yes, when we're talking about third-person observing other people. No, not at all. That's conflating the third-person observation problem with the fir...

If we're doing academic work, yes. If we're doing art--writing poetry, writing lyrics, writing fiction, etc, no.

It irks me that people adopted "fake news" just because Trump used that term. The ideas of good versus bad, reliable versus unreliable sources, the id...

This is going to be very long, unfortunately (I'm not at all a fan of long posts), but hopefully it will help you understand my view better, and maybe...

To me, stuff like this seems like philosophers obsessing over people qua people, so that they can't allow themselves to address anything other than pe...

What? Did you understand what i said earlier about how types/tokens are similar to a set and members of a set?

Insofar as I can use it, yes. It wouldn't be instantaneous. You don't use it all at once. You have something in mind as you use it, though. Sure, beca...

Wittgenstein isn't exactly a continentalist, though. I agree that he's a weird fit for the analytic "school," but he makes much more sense to lump in ...

So this, for example, I think is obviously incorrect, especially the "not present for consciousness as we use it" part. As soon as you get here, by th...

I'm just difficult. Even my favorite philosophers I disagree with more than 50% of the time. Re continentalism, I really, really hate continental phil...

Re proper names as tokens, what set would you say a proper name belongs to?

Not trying to be pissy, just honest. Whether it has any value as feedback is another issue, but it's an honest reaction.

It seems almost like you're not even reading what you're writing. The answer here is tokens.

Which wouldn't be proper names, however.

It doesn't make sense because you're trying to make proper names fit an idea that they don't fit. Proper names are neither types nor tokens of some ty...

Those are proper names, not descriptions. Proper names aren't types or tokens of a type. A type is something like a music CD--it's a category of thing...

I don't want to keep saying this, and I've mostly tried not to, because I hate harping on the same thing all the time, but pretty much anything you wr...

I'm taking it that you aren't thinking of "more important" as "they like it/value it a lot more," but something else?

I'm not saying that the agreement isn't objective as a speech act--that is, as a verbal or textual event, say. But we're not conflating the speech act...

What definition of suffering are we using? Different people have in mind a huge variety of things with that term. See, for example, my post here: http...

A phenomenon can't be mental simply because it produces mental phenomena, unless in general, it's true for all x that if x produces y, which has prope...

We disagree on a lot of that (and a !ot of stuff in general). For one, I don't agree that knowledge requires any sort of certainty. Re descriotions, i...

So is a shoe factory some type of clothing just because it produces shoes?

My experience with people is actually that there's a really wide, really varied range of opinions about the same stuff, a range that doesn't at all re...

I'd set up a very different system than that if I were king. Basically you would have a right to be employed, and businesses wouldn't hinge on direct ...

Well, either they are thought, or they produce thought. The two wouldn't be the same. If they just produce thought, then they're not identical to thou...

One problem with this study for our present purposes is that it is NOT saying, "the test subjects had no conscious mental contemplation with respect t...

Well, so for example I don't agree with that. You could, of course, define suffering so that it includes the word "bad" in it, but plenty of conventio...

His definitions are unusual. Re continuing reading, it's just a matter of whether you're being entertained by Bradley and/or if you really want to kno...

Either it's mental or it isn't. If you're saying it is, then I'm asking why. If you're not saying that it is, then we're not disagreeing about anythin...

I don't know if we're having a serious language problem or not. I'm not challenging that we can imitate others. I'm not saying that imitating others i...

This is claiming that we wouldn't be able to imitate others if the unconscious processes are not akin to mental representations, goals, and knowledge?...

Another good point.

Yeah, you can't have "only simulations." That's incoherent.

Which has nothing to do with what I'm asking you. You had posted about this: I said let's assume that that's the case empirically. I'm fine with accep...

Unsurprisingly, given that what you're quoting isn't a response to me, none of that answers the question I asked. Why are you changing tactics to igno...

Let's suppose that's true empirically. Why are we saying that it's a mental phenomenon?

At least as presented, that's pretty much all completely unsupported crap, by the way. It's a bunch of people making claims with no logical argumentat...