I have not as yet acquired sufficient technical understanding to answer this question. In fact it's a point on which I'm stuck myself. It's a point of...
I'm going to stop posting in this thread till I read the Susskind paper. But again, if by "it" you mean a physical theory that incorporates infinity, ...
Regarding @"Metaphysician Undercover" thought process. From Apocalypse Now: Capt. Benjamin Willard: They told me that you had gone totally insane, and...
I know a technical context in which that's not true. There's a theory weaker than Peano arithmetic called Presburger arithmetic that allows for only a...
Rather than my spouting off more, I'm going to read the Susskind paper because he's someone I respect AND he's not Penrose so his ideas would be more ...
I discussed this at length. You chose not to engage with my questions, my points, or my arguments. You failed to demonstrate basic understanding of th...
I haven't seen your handle much before. People who know me on this board know that I'm perfectly capable of getting into the mud. I'm sorely tempted a...
Best you don't, since I couldn't have been more clear. A TM is not a physical device. It's an abstract mathematical construction. A computation, by de...
I don't think it's absurd at all. I do think that you haven't backed up your claim that there's a scientific theory to that effect, other than Penrose...
If they're bounded then I already acknowledged that example as in 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, ... in which there's no "first step" but is nonetheless bounded below...
If the word simulation means something other than computation, you need to state clearly what that is; and it has to be consistent either with known p...
I have no philosophical objection. The claim made by you was that science posits an infinite past, which is false. If we're not doing science, you can...
In the very post I was replying to. Fine. Find a statement P such that there's a mathematical proof of both P and its negation. That's the only way yo...
Yes thank you. I haven't read it all yet so perhaps this point is explained. In the little bit that I read, they said that Guth said that time goes in...
I agree that just because you argue from certain premises doesn't mean you agree with them. But you are being disingenuous here. I could easily go bac...
Have you a specific reference to that meaning of the universe? I know that Lawrence Krauss says that the universe "came from nothing," meaning in a te...
That's interesting. So is dark matter somehow outside of the universe? If the universe is everything that happened after the big bang? Was the dark ma...
Quantum computers are based on such an idea. In normal probability theory you take 1 and 0 to be certainty and impossibility, and a probability is a r...
Point1: Ok a fair answer but still a deflection. The question is why you earlier believed in the rationals, but now do not believe in 1/9. Since 1/9 i...
I'm a grizzled veteran of .999... threads. I was dismayed to find one had sprouted up here, but I'm powerless to resist. I've sworn off them many time...
@"Metaphysician Undercover"'s in my head for sure. But I think it's a good clarifying question. Whether he accepts the formalism on its own terms even...
Curious about your 1/9 concerns. A while back you told me you believe in rationals but not sqrt(2). But now you don't seem to believe in rationals. Wh...
I could prove from first principles that .999... and 1 refer to the same real number. You choose not to engage with the argument. Nowhere to go with t...
Would you agree that the fact that a thing has more than one nam is no argument against the two expressions or representations designating the same th...
You're right, will do as the inclination strikes. Oh my. That's not true. But first for the record let me say that I agree with you. A TM could perhap...
I remember all too well, which is why I'm not joining in with the rest of the gang arguing with you. Nice job trolling them all though. Your objection...
Ok. I'm willing to agree that a couple of kids dribbling a basketball on the playground differs from an NBA game only in quality and not in kind. I do...
Surely you've read Catch-22. If you're crazy, you can get out of flying more bombing missions. But if you don't want to fly any more bombing missions ...
The sum of an infinite series is defined as the limit of the sequence of partial sums of the series. I don't understand your objection. You are entire...
This standard "proof" is of course bullpucky. It's true, but not actually a proof at this level. Why? Well, as you yourself have pointed out, the fiel...
Can you summarize the main point please? What is a p-zombie if it's not a TM (or some alternate mechanism) that emulates a human without being self-aw...
But I absolutely reiterate the question. It's the heart of my objection to your thesis. You conflate idle forum chitchat to the work of professional p...
I think we're agreed on that. I jumped into this thread based on only one phrase from one post without reading the rest. I only posted to get out of m...
No prob. Please quote the exact phrase that set you off so that I can analyze it and adjust my programming. At my end it felt like sharp questions in ...
Eric Berne identified this as a harmless form of the game of Rapo. A woman dresses provocatively.I f you look, you lose. More advanced forms of this g...
I don't know why. If you feel you shouldn't respond to something I write, you probably shouldn't. I surely meant no offense and don't understand why y...
Yes. Yes but with a big caveat. You used the word conscious but Turing uses the word intelligent. Intelligence is a behavior and consciousness is a su...
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