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What does a question require to exist?

Daniel June 24, 2020 at 20:35 10225 views 51 comments
I want to know your opinion. What's necessary for a question to exist?

I'll start with what in my opinion is one of the most obvious requirements; a question requires a subject who asks it to exist.

Try to keep it simple (be as concise as possible).

Comments (51)

A Seagull June 24, 2020 at 20:49 #427481
Quoting Daniel
What's necessary for a question to exist?


A question mark?
Devans99 June 24, 2020 at 20:55 #427482
Reply to Daniel You can map some questions to statements which have binary (maybe trinary , etc...) truth values:

Is the cat black?

Maps to:

The cat is black (with a truth value of true or false).
A Seagull June 24, 2020 at 21:52 #427505
Quoting Devans99
You can map some questions to statements which have binary (maybe trinary , etc...) truth values:

Is the cat black?

Maps to:

The cat is black (with a truth value of true or false).


That is an over simplification. truth values only have logical meaning in abstract systems.

There are many varieties of 'black' in the real world.
Devans99 June 24, 2020 at 21:57 #427509
Quoting A Seagull
There are many varieties of 'black' in the real world


You could use discrete or fuzzy true values:

- The question 'Is the cat is light, medium or dark black?' maps to a trinary kind of truth value.
- 'What are the chances the cat is pitched black?' maps to a fuzzy truth value.
Daniel June 24, 2020 at 22:30 #427516
Reply to A Seagull You mean an interrogative accent? oral questions do not need question marks to exist if by question mark you mean "?".
Mww June 24, 2020 at 22:33 #427517
Quoting Daniel
What's necessary for a question to exist?


What’s necessary for a question, is an unknown that relates to it. What’s necessary for a question to exist, I suppose, is just the expression of it.
Daniel June 24, 2020 at 22:35 #427518
Quoting Devans99
You can map some questions to statements which have binary (maybe trinary , etc...) truth values:

Is the cat black?

Maps to:

The cat is black (with a truth value of true or false).


Reply to Devans99 Do you mean a question needs an answer to exist?
3017amen June 24, 2020 at 22:45 #427522
Reply to Daniel

Consciousness.

(aka, what is self-awareness.)
Daniel June 24, 2020 at 22:58 #427524
Quoting Mww
An unknown that relates to it.


Reply to Mww I agree. I'd like to ask you, how would you say the unknown relates to the question? How is a question something about what is unknown? Does the unknown act directly on the question or does it act on something else from which the question then arises? (they are all kind of the same question)
Daniel June 24, 2020 at 23:08 #427526
Quoting 3017amen
Consciousness.

(aka, what is self-awareness.)


Reply to 3017amen I agree with you. I'd like to know why you think questions need self-awareness to exist? what is it in a nascent question which requires self-awareness for such process to exist (to begin; to continue)?

Mww June 24, 2020 at 23:47 #427535
Quoting Daniel
how would you say the unknown relates to the question?


I guess....in the most basic sense, the query presupposes the conception in the subject of the response relates directly to the conception in the subject in the query. The response “the color of the dining room is 14ft”, is incoherent with respect to the question “what color is the dining room?”.
fishfry June 24, 2020 at 23:49 #427536
Quoting A Seagull
A question mark?


And the Mysterians!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F_and_the_Mysterians
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Outlander June 25, 2020 at 00:40 #427548
What does anything require to exist. I don't know or ever personally witnessed 7 billion people. Doesn't mean they don't.

Perhaps this is a non answer (I always dislike those) but I suppose having the state or property of existence. Lol. It either does or it doesn't. No observation or reference will change that. A question as a literal object ie. a verbal or written inquiry or a concept? Concepts are more interesting. What if there were no humans here. The question of why are they not exists. Even here and now why aren't there giant firebreathing dragons here for example is a question. Maybe the answer is "because they don't exist", an answered question still "exists" .. or does it?
3017amen June 25, 2020 at 01:47 #427565
Quoting Daniel
I agree with you. I'd like to know why you think questions need self-awareness to exist?


Good question. It appears that most if not all lower life forms are not self-aware enough to wonder about things and ask questions. The metrics of instinct, versus the intellect in human consciousness, obviously leans toward instinct being subordinate to intellect. And so for whatever reason the intellect that is predominant in human's provides for the ability to ask questions.

This leads to other questions. For example, if self-awareness is the driving force behind the existence of questions, what is the purpose of asking questions? (What is the purpose of self-awareness and intellect?) The ability to ask questions themselves do not appear to offer survival value for lower/higher life forms. Accordingly, instinct and genetically coded emergent properties are all that's needed.

Quoting Daniel
what is it in a nascent question which requires self-awareness for such process to exist (to begin; to continue)?


Conservation of energy.

Possibility June 25, 2020 at 02:04 #427569
Quoting Daniel
An unknown that relates to it.
— Mww

?Mww I agree. I'd like to ask you, how would you say the unknown relates to the question? How is a question something about what is unknown? Does the unknown act directly on the question or does it act on something else from which the question then arises? (they are all kind of the same question)


Not necessarily a specific unknown, rather a fuzziness or uncertainty to the information. A question is an expression of potentiality. It presents uncertain or incomplete information as a transferable prediction of effort and attention distribution to complete the potential information.

So the question, “what colour is the dining room?” presents incomplete potential information regarding a particular value - colour - attributed to a particular ‘dining room’. Regardless of whether this specific information is available - ie. whether or not the missing information is ‘unknown’ or unknowable by either the questioner or the questionee - the question itself exists as an expression of missing potential information, to be answered by the questionee relating their subjective experience to the information as presented, and responding with a colour value to complete the information as a shared relation or ‘superposition’ state between them.

Alternatively, the question, “Is the dining room red?” also presents incomplete potential information regarding a particular value - colour - attributed to a particular ‘dining room’. What is missing is not a colour value, however, but rather the questionee relating their subjective experience to the information as presented, and responding with a binary truth value (yes/no - and/or an alternative colour value) to complete the information as a shared relation between them.

Well, that wasn’t simple or concise. Sorry.
Banno June 25, 2020 at 02:34 #427575
There are no unexpressed questions?
Possibility June 25, 2020 at 04:58 #427610
Quoting Banno
There are no unexpressed questions?


If it has not been expressed - even to the self, in the form of thought - can it be defined as a ‘question’?
Banno June 25, 2020 at 05:53 #427623
Reply to Possibility Well, if it is an unexpressed question, ipso facto it is a question...
Possibility June 25, 2020 at 13:07 #427734
Reply to Banno It’s commonly referred to as ‘doubt’.
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 14:05 #427749
Quoting Mww
I guess....in the most basic sense, the query presupposes the conception in the subject of the response relates directly to the conception in the subject in the query. The response “the color of the dining room is 14ft”, is incoherent with respect to the question “what color is the dining room?”.


Reply to Mww
I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say. I understand you are saying that the question, the unknown which causes the question, and its response are all logically (causally?) related. Is this what you mean? If it is, what is it that judges the quality of their relationship? What is it that says: "this response is not of this question?"
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 14:10 #427752
Quoting tim wood
A question presupposes that which it asks of. That is, a question is logically prior to it's own answer. (Not mine, source on request; I'm too lazy to find it at the moment.)


Reply to tim wood so, no questions without answers?
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 14:24 #427757
Quoting 3017amen
Conservation of energy.


Reply to 3017amen the effect of the unknown (or anything else) on the body dissipates in the form of ideas?

Anyways, that's not the topic of this discussion. I am asking you what it is in the self awareness of an individual which is required for the existence of questions?

Daniel June 25, 2020 at 14:38 #427764
Reply to Possibility how are you aware of the incomplete potential information that a question presents?
3017amen June 25, 2020 at 14:47 #427771
Quoting Daniel
I am asking you what it is in the self awareness of an individual which is required for the existence of questions?


Think of ideas themselves (or wonderment) as part of a metaphysical agency or energy, manifested by or from our natural stream of consciousness. Ideas come to us at random, for us to then pick and choose... .



Daniel June 25, 2020 at 14:51 #427773
Quoting Banno
Well, if it is an unexpressed question, ipso facto it is a question...


Reply to Banno

You are thinking about the idea of an unexpressed question (which is not an unexpressed question but an idea of one), but you are not thinking about the unexpressed question itself. Thinking requires that you communicate something to yourself. If not communicated at least to the self, can a question exist?
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 15:00 #427778
Reply to 3017amen Still not answering the question I asked you. There must be something that turns the metaphysical substance (energy) in your theory into physical ideas (or something you recognize). What is it? How do you become aware of the question?
3017amen June 25, 2020 at 15:40 #427790
Quoting Daniel
There must be something that turns the metaphysical substance (energy) in your theory into physical ideas (or something you recognize). What is it? How do you become aware of the question?


Great questions. I think you are referring to what is called the hard problem of consciousness. The common examples include, but are not limited to, the perception of the color red, metaphysical identity/what's it like to be a bat, etc.. This phenomena is similar to the metaphysical nature of conscious existence.

Meaning, it seems this sense of wonderment/metaphysical agency/energy that appears in our stream of consciousness is naturally existential. Questions, originate from our innate sense of wonderment. In short, you become aware of questions through your being self-aware from consciousness.

Do these questions have physical images associated with them as contained in our stream of consciousness? Yes they do. But some don't. Some questions appear as sentient impulses.. And that sentience takes the form of the will; metaphysical will in nature. (Have you read Schopenhauer?)


Mww June 25, 2020 at 15:52 #427794
Quoting Daniel
I understand you are saying that the question, the unknown which causes the question, and its response are all logically (causally?) related.


Not necessarily; it is possible for a question not to have an answer, in which case the question seeking an unknown remains unsatisfied, and logical relation becomes moot. But to be a legitimate question, that is, one for which the answer is both possible and rational, then the one must directly relate to the other.

But a finer point might be that unknowns don’t cause questions necessarily, merely from being an unknown in general. Such is the strictly minor fallacy cum hoc ergo propter hoc, which says because there are unknowns therefore there are questions, which is not always the case. Being coincident with is very far from being causality for.
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Quoting Daniel
If it is, what is it that judges the quality of their relationship?


As my ol’ buddy Connor MacLeod....you know...the Highlander, says.....there can be only one. In this case, only the inquirer may be the judge.

Daniel June 25, 2020 at 16:28 #427836
Reply to Mww So, we could say that a question requires an unknown associated/related to it, a subject that recognizes what is unknown, and the expression of the question by such subject so that it can exist. However, a question does not need a perceivable response/explanation to exist (the question can exist without me knowing the answer to the question, but an answer exists for all existing questions). Do you agree with this? What would you change? Try to be concise.
Mww June 25, 2020 at 19:48 #427957
Quoting Daniel
an answer exists for all existing questions


I don’t agree with that.
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Daniel June 25, 2020 at 20:27 #427989
If a question is that which arises from the interaction of what was not known* with the self, then the answer must be what causes what was not known (broadly speaking). In this case, to say that a question has no answer would be the same as to say that that which was not known has no cause (and like you, I cannot think of anything that has such quality). However, is it right to assume that every question arises from the interaction of something which is not known with the self?

*Assuming that that which is not known becomes known as soon as it interacts, directly or indirectly, with the self. You can know something without understanding it.
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 20:27 #427991
Reply to Mww Why not?
Mww June 25, 2020 at 21:57 #428028
Reply to Daniel

Answered already.
Banno June 25, 2020 at 22:09 #428037
Quoting Daniel
You are thinking about the idea of an unexpressed question (which is not an unexpressed question but an idea of one), but you are not thinking about the unexpressed question itself. Thinking requires that you communicate something to yourself. If not communicated at least to the self, can a question exist?


That reeks of private language...

I was actually thinking, not of a question that had been thought but not spoken, so much as a question that had not been thought.

Ipso fact, its a question.

But the thrust of my point is to show the poverty of the @Daniel's OP; speaking of questions existing or not existing is misguided.
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 22:38 #428048
Reply to Banno Ok. Then let me ask you. What are the requirements for a question to be expressed? I just want a list of the things that you think are needed to express a question. Certainly, there are things that are required for a question to be expressed (i.e., language). What's in your list? Also, taking into account the fact that you cannot express a question if there is not a question to express, how does the question to be expressed becomes an object of that which expresses it?
Banno June 25, 2020 at 22:42 #428051
Reply to Daniel Not sure what you are asking here, but if you are after a list of the logical requirements for asking question, Searle does an excellent job in his Intentionality.
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 22:58 #428067
Reply to Banno I just want a list of the things you think are required to express a question. A list that is as comprehensive as you can make it.
Also, I'd like to read the essay... do you have any digital copies of it?
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 23:03 #428073
Reply to Banno nvm, just found the book.
Banno June 25, 2020 at 23:08 #428081
Reply to Daniel Arck, my bad . It's Speech acts, a table on pp 66-7.

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christian2017 June 25, 2020 at 23:32 #428096
Reply to Daniel

missing knowledge on the part of the asker and a request for information from someone else.

Also:

When 2 people are arguing it is very often easier to counter someones argument with a question (similar to Jeopardy). Forcing the debate opponent to pump blood to his/her brain to answer the question gives you time to counter their notion (that you don't like). If they answer with a bad answer you can then attack their answer.

This tactic predates Jesus Christ even though this tactic is associated with him. It probably even predates the oldest (supposedly oldest) book in the Bible (Book of Job).

For complex issues its easier to get your debate opponent to mess up in his/her logic if he/she can't nail down the concepts that are apart of the greater picture.

You could say the people involved in the debate are using this tactic because they are gambling (unknown variables) on whether the "opponent" fully understands the issue. If the "opponent" does fully understand the issue thats when the person asking the question might be put in check or check mate.

It all depends on whether the opponent or me or you fully understands the problem. Ofcourse you would agree if you or i fully understand or atleast to a great degree understand the problem its easier to come to the right conclusion.

I believe in absolute truth but i believe it is often hard to come to the right conclusion given Human's short life spans and limited testing abilities.
Daniel June 25, 2020 at 23:54 #428114
Reply to tim wood

I do not know what a question is, hence why I want to find all the things that define a question. So far, I believe the most important requirement for a question to exist is a body that is able to detect/perceive/experience change; that is, for a question to become an object of one's mind (to exist in the mind/to appear in the mind), one must be able to distinguish between previous experiences and what is being newly experienced (or what was unknown). More precisely, one must be able to distinguish between what one has experienced in the past and what one just experienced for the first time (a change between what is known and what is not known is perceived). For this, the capacity of memory would be required, and thus memory is also a requirement for the existence of questions.

So, in summary, I'would say a question arises in the mind when the self is affected by a novel experience AND the self is able to tell that it has never had such experience (how?) AND the self is able to communicate such novel encounter (communicate to what? I have no idea-I'd say itself, but how would the self act on itself?) so that in the process of communicating the novel encounter, the question arises.

Another requirement is that which is unknown and which becomes the subject of the nascent question right after it is experienced for the first time, for example.

Like these requirements there are many more (i.e., language, which would be required to communicate the novel experience). Many of you might think these requirements to be obvious, and they are; I mean, there would not be questions if there is nothing unknown, right? Nonetheless, I want to revisit them because I think this "obviousness" hides more than what it lets us see. That's the reason for most of my questions here, tbh. When I ask your opinion is because I believe each of us hides some truth, truth that no one else can access, truth that is as valuable as the one professed by great philosophers.
Possibility June 26, 2020 at 13:51 #428416
Quoting Daniel
how are you aware of the incomplete potential information that a question presents?


It’s a result of effort and attention.
Victoria Nova July 05, 2020 at 02:25 #431764
1. For a question to exist there has to be initial dissatisfaction with something given as unchangeable cruel truth. Example: Why should all people die?
2. For a question to exist there has to be desire to approve continuation of pleasurable life flow. Example, child is asking her parent: Mom, is life going to be the same every year? You taking me to kinder garden, I am playing all day, then you taking me home?
Victoria Nova July 05, 2020 at 02:27 #431765
Foe the question to exist , it requires not knowing and wanting to know or knowing and wanting to find better outcome than the knowledge implies.
Daniel July 23, 2020 at 04:49 #436620
Reply to Victoria Nova

Quoting Victoria Nova
not knowing and wanting to know


What causes the want (the desire) to know?
Victoria Nova August 06, 2020 at 20:41 #440535
One desires to know, because knowing is the result of successful thinking process. Thus finding the answer to existing problem feels good, it works as positive reinforcement for asking a question.
Gus Lamarch September 17, 2020 at 21:40 #453242
Quoting Daniel
What's necessary for a question to exist?


A question, being a concept, needs a vehicle to be projected into existence and a potency to make the vehicle project it. From "Non Being" it needs a "Being" with "Purpose" to "Become".
JerseyFlight September 17, 2020 at 21:47 #453248
Reply to Daniel "What does a question require to exist?"

Beautiful question. The answer is obvious, a functioning human brain coupled with social knowledge.