yeah, perhaps we've just misused terms (one or other of us) but i think this is what my issue boils down to. I can accept the 'brute fact' position be...
Physicists can empirically verify is (with reference to definition, sure). Moral facts are not amendable to the same verification. I think this is the...
I'm very sorry about how dismissive this might sound, but I can't think of anything but 'What, no". That makes no sense to me. This requires that you ...
I guess i'm making a bit of a woo-woo claim here, but couching it merely in experience, not truth. It is possible, in those states of consciousness, t...
We're talking about sentience though, which is why i directly referenced sentience and it's constitution. I need not have used the Nagel line, it's ju...
Nope. I need to know what you mean to give a meaningful response to your statements. I can clarify anything to myself, but all that does is take me fu...
No, it isn't. The state of affairs is everything which is in the wrong. The exclusion is a necessary inference, but is not a state of affairs in itsel...
Ooof. Well that’s a move I guess. A move I reject but that’s fine. There’s clearly daylight here and you’re now just plum not engaging while claiming ...
Then be a good sport; replace it with “real” and respond to the objection. It remains with either term. It is not true OR “real” in any meaningful way...
It is absolutely nothing like saying this, but incidentally that example also affirms, as an example, that using the term 'true for me' would be usele...
Your incredulity aside - yes - that's exactly the scenario I am point out renders the use of the term 'real for me' absolutely unusable. Someone lying...
Yes, but it is patently obvious they are different experiences. "real for me" loses meaning as it can just be used to defend any erroneous claim by de...
This depends on whether the 'identical' memories include the moment at which the DG was created. Typically, you'd have that memory (i.e, you could rem...
No it doesn't. I make no comment on what you're actually saying/trying to say or whether interpretation is an issue - but it certainly did not sound l...
Yes, i recognized this and pulled back from it at the end there with 'No' lol. I suppose the potential for determinism's truth admits of that well. Li...
Yeah, re-reading my post I was extremely sloppy lol, so sorry for that - I meant to superficially extend the example to many origins - that kind of mi...
(this may be for a nother thread, but I like this line, so....) Hmm, a fair suggestion, but I am actually noting that your supporting features are tho...
I had a hypnogogic version of this occur to me this morning. Finally figured what i was trying to say....Which is essentially this. The claim somethin...
The emotion arising from a perception. The reaction to an event in emotional terms. No. I am telling you that i, myself observe this among criminals (...
This seems a totally useless meaning to ascribe to 'real'. It doesn't delineate anything except that you, rather than another person experience someth...
I certainly can - some people are just misguided in their emotional reactivity; this is the sense of 'misguided' or 'misfiring' emotions. Thinking you...
One of the largest distinctions in law is the difference between the US system and 'British' which the colonies took on. Canada's law system is closer...
I find it quite hard to understand how one could have a 'conclusion' such that it results in behaviour, which is not a direct result of external.. eve...
I do not believe this to be a very widely view of what sentience consists in. My understanding is there must be feeling in the sense of "what it is li...
If you've experienced an altered state of consciousness, that conclusion (that a 'soul' is beyond comprehension) is perhaps best thought off as an app...
They comport with all I’ve read about deontological principles from Bentham on? Idk man. Because it posits a system in which lying is violating a duty...
I agree with this - and it seems to me that this exact thinking applies to moral statements. But I consider truth dependent on an object. If your obje...
Fair, in general. But, not quite my understanding based on multiple academic sources. One below, directly dealing with the issue: https://www.merton.o...
I am not a deontologist. So am free to agree with you. My understanding is that as lying perverts communication, a deontologist cannot, ever, lie, to ...
Totally missed this thread! A lot of you already know me and my ankle-biting ways because of that, so apologies. My name is Amadeus Diamond I'm Irish;...
I think this depends on your moral standpoint, but i would say deontolog-ism is a good start. I believe that strong deontology requires never, ever be...
I don't read Bob as even intimating that this might be the case. All he's positing is that some judgement could be independent of him and still be sub...
Thank you! Really appreciate the considered reply! Even a polite rejection is fine by my lights :nerd: I am doing my best to try not to annoy people s...
What would you think about a visceral uneasiness is calling it 'true'? I don't know whether my behaviour is correct. It's the best i can envisage. I f...
Hmm. I imagine i'm being linguistically imprecise then (or i've been unnecessarily reactionary to challenges), as this is not what i think. I'm happy ...
(please keep in mind I am not defending, particularly, anything here - I am nutting out ideas and approaching tehse things as a pretty green amateur p...
I have a rather unique, and I imagine, quite pertinent perspective here. For about seven years i suffered what was termed "Trauma-induced DiD(dissocia...
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