That's true. Well, yes, but that is one of the things that I find so odd about Kimhi: he reads Frege in a purely analytic direction. I am convinced th...
On page 17 I argued that Kimhi is too bound up in a Fregian paradigm to overcome Frege. The challenge for the anti-analytics is to make an argument th...
Well, I am really looking for any kind of "bigger picture." Kimhi's bigger picture, J's bigger picture, or philosophy's bigger picture - in that order...
This is fairly important. Kimhi does somewhat attempt to provide an alternative, but Martin demonstrates rather quickly that Kimhi's alternative falls...
- Thanks for the posts and attempting to wrestle with the bigger picture. :up: Yes, I think this is right. Yes, but why are we to think that Kimhi is ...
Right, or it's that we have a proximate thesis but no remote thesis: One should apply the context principle to arguments and theses themselves. The me...
- Hanna represents something interesting and probably confused when he says that Kimhi's book, "effectively closes out a 100+ year-long tradition in m...
- That all strikes me as a rather elaborate avoidance strategy. If someone doesn't care about a thesis then they won't find arguments for or against i...
Good find. This is an important paper for this thread: link to Martin's paper. - This is the point I made to @"Srap Tasmaner" earlier: Before reading ...
A subsidiary argument which may not have been mentioned is, "Any species which develops systematic means to kill 70+ million of its own fetuses each y...
I’ve fallen behind, but I like the way that recast the discussion from a birds-eye view. I will try to do something similar in this post. For me the d...
A hodgepodge... At this point I very much want to know what motivates you to have faith in Kimhi. Or more precisely, "Suppose Kimhi's arguments fail. ...
Objection 2 reads, “The essence is the middle term of demonstration,” not, “The essence of a demonstration is the middle term.” For example: All dogs ...
There is a conflation occurring between a necessary act and a necessary choice. "Forcing one's hand" refers to a movement ad unum (towards one thing o...
Where, historically, would you say that essential connection gets dissolved or weakened? Well, I think this avoids the force of my point a bit. Frege ...
Er, but only as a preliminary. You go on to say: The whole thing is supposed to be "designed," "wielded," etc., to produce some dramatic effect. My po...
- :up: --- The answer here is, 'No, that's not what Russell was saying at all, whether we take your "proposition" in Russell's sense or Frege's sense....
If "thought" is understood in a specialized sense then, sure, if you like. Again, my point is that these invisibly specialized senses of "proposition"...
- Global warming or climate change is on a par with your OP. It is often presented as an ultimatum. Nevertheless, a cynical reading is not the only op...
- Early Frege did not distinguish sense and reference and may have spoken of propositions simply as thoughts, but this is not true for later Frege, wh...
On the other hand, what if something important has happened that should be passed on? Is that a possibility or not? I don't see how a strange argument...
Your quote nowhere says that for Frege a proposition is a thought. Do you realize that? Have you read the OP? Here is IEP: - Those who don't know what...
Why shouldn't it make a difference? Is justification the only thing that matters? The only thing we can talk about? If you want a thread on justificat...
- was right on the money when he said that your desire to keep using that word "proposition" gets us nowhere, as it is used very differently by differ...
Here is Russell: - Ordinarily we must take something away from a statement in order to sequester the assertoric force, because the assertoric force is...
I think that in order for the critique to make sense it must be linked up to some goal of Kimhi's. Kimhi must be made to say, "This point in the OP ma...
Welcome! My advice would be simple: be transparent and honest. Don't pretend to know what you don't know, and don't be afraid of saying something that...
This is part of what I was trying to get at when I said that fiction is much less univocal than logic. :up: Yes, good, and we can take this in a Plato...
Granted, and I pointed to the same thing early on in the discussion: - Sure, but it's worth recognizing that it was never anything more than a dance. ...
In those terms the question is simply whether Kimhi sees something which "displays (assertoric) force " as having some kind of force. Regardless of wo...
I don't think anyone has claimed this. The point that Wittgenstein makes has to do with conditions for truth or falsity, not a decision. Yes, exactly....
Frege makes a very interesting comment in the context of dissociating assertoric force from the predicate, and it relates to Kimhi: Soon after this, F...
- Sure, but given that Frege understands language differently than the subject-predicate model of ordinary language which he intentionally diverges fr...
- @"J" seems to want us to say that Frege would have it that 'Berlin' has meaning and significance even apart from any predicate or quantification, as...
I think these are the right considerations, although I think you can remove the assertion in "real life" too. We could look at this from a different a...
That's true, but I don't think that sort of hypothesizing is susceptible to formal logical analysis, as it is presupposed that the subject is doing th...
Kimhi's argument is something like this: 1. In order to assert a (declarative) sentence, I must first judge whether it is true or false 2. In order to...
I think Frege would say that the fiction author has removed something from their words, whereas the fiction author would say that Frege has removed so...
Yes - that is the Aristotelian realism route and I am comfortable with it. It says that fiction is ultimately a rearranging of sense experiences and m...
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