Existential Hope

I appreciate it. We discussed these issues before, so I would prefer avoiding repeating ourselves. Indeed. But the limitations are more severe for som...

Insights from various perspectives are always useful for men with limited understanding like myself. I am grateful to every person who has taken the t...

Comprehensively inapplicable. Also, excellent input :ok:

I would differ with that. If we can create lives that are likely to be good at little personal cost, I believe that it would be unethical not to creat...

I already have. However, it would be a mere repeat of the previous conversation. As I said before, if life can be an "Imposition", I don't see any val...

I am merely advocating for consistency. The reason it appears ad hoc is likely due to the double standards in your own position regarding happiness an...

It depends. Many people argue against procreation on the basis of the idea that it leads to a mostly bad existence which would be "worse" than a lack ...

That's a separate matter entirely. One could still consider someone's existence to be a harm in a comparative sense due to the presence of suffering w...

In order for an act to be an imposition, it needs to impose upon someone. Procreation creates a person, but it doesn't impose anything upon a person, ...

The act itself is not an imposition because it in and of itself doesn't go against the interests of a person. Whether or not the person experiences fu...

Possibly. But if it can be an imposition, it can also be a gift. I am not a a fan of arbitrary double standards :p

The concept of consent as a whole counts for nothing when it comes to procreation, in my view. So yes, actual and hypothetical ideas regarding consent...

I don't think that any form of consent applies to procreation, so that's irrelevant for me. Again, one cannot violate someone's consent when they don'...

They are definitely quite reasonable, so I would be inclined to say yes. Hopefully, they would only be used in applicable situations keeping potential...

I thought I already did. I assumed what you said to be true, so I didn't provide any couter-examples. I merely alluded to other things that might be r...

Supplement it. I can, in principle, agree with what you said here. Might be a bit boring lol. Perhaps other people can provide actual disagreements.

A few seconds can help prevent decades spent believing in arbitrary standards.

Real and imaginary consent/impositions can certainly be interesting ideas to consider ;) I hope Nozick would also agree that it's problematic to not s...

#Overwhelmed :clap: Thank you so much!

Not so. I think that it's objectively problematic to suggest that a child in the slums who finds unfathomable joy when hugging his mother—who shares h...

I agree that it's not necessary to do good all the time, since I don't think that it's necessary for one to have a good life. My point was only about ...

Thanks for sharing this in-depth and enlightening information. I haven't had much time to study these topics for the past few months due to personal c...

Some people might think that their notions of "burdens" trump all other perspectives and considerations. However, there are many people who find ineff...

Yeah, I do not think that one should say that potential goods would outweigh the current harms (in the sense that they are the dominant factor in the ...

One cannot "violate" the autonomy of someone who never expressed an interest in an alternative state of affairs that was somehow ignored when they wer...

Interesting post. All I would add is that I believe that satisfaction itself can be pleasant. In view of this, we find hunger to be problematic only w...

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That's indeed possible. And just as infinite desires could exist, infinite ways to attain fulfillment could also be present. Having the right perspect...

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There's definitely much to truly understand, much of which could be counter-intuitive ;)

New goods could create new problems (although this doesn't change the fact that progress is possible, such as the eradication of diseases like smallpo...

Not all things that appear to be self-evident (which, by the way, does not include the idea that reproduction is always wrong) are true ;) It's self-e...

We may or may not "mind" many things, but that does not necessarily make them intrinsically bad/good (vide supra my earlier comments regarding the pur...

Indeed.

"Neutral" state of affairs might be better than bad ones (such as harm), but they are also worse than good ones (such as happiness). In light of this,...

The asymmetry does not really make sense to me. There is nobody suffering from a deprivation of joy and nobody gaining fulfilment from the prevention ...

Dreams are indeed dreams and reality is indeed reality. They could meet, but we could also conflate. The line is blurred when biases (potential, but p...

I completely concur. Part of the problem is the inability of most people to realise that shallow consumerism and unbridled selfishness can never lead ...

I do not think so. I think it is more likely that we have not turned on all the lights. The place could turn bad, sure, but it is not always the case....

Sometimes, there's a dream of falling off one's bed that does not materialise in reality. After a while, its persistence loses its persuasion power. B...

Or eternal bliss :p But I don't believe in hell (or the sort of theistic heaven people talk about). It's something ... ineffable. Interesting stuff, a...

Sometimes we wish to close the door in front of us not only because the room in front of us looks bad, but also because leaving the majestic hall one ...

I am more interested in the truth than what seems to be absurd, and I don't think that talking about absurdity is relevant when someone believes that ...

I was using good in terms of something being moral and something which we have a reason to do. And no, the good isn't "non-deserving", since ethical p...

You're missing the point. It is still good to benefit me. It's merely that superficial benefits that entail a high cost for you are not necessary, sin...

Not exactly, since I don't need incessant interference from others (especially if it comes at a great cost for themselves) to be happy as long as they...

It isn't question begging. I am only pointing out that there isn't a sufficient reason to treat the harms and benefits differently. The point was that...

That's been the crux of the issue for a while now. The claim that seems to imply that we do not deserve happiness because we haven't done anything mor...

I am aware of that. I was referring to the suicide point. Good or bad may not be experiential (I disagree with that but I grant that for the sake of t...

It was Agent who said that suicide somehow supports the asymmetry. But it isn't clear to me that a desire to die somehow implies that the absence of p...