Then you are pretty clueless. You tried to manipulate me into making an argument against something you haven't bothered to attempt to support. I rejec...
Your consequentialist views are only appropriate in normative ethics, which is not what this is. In meta-ethics, it is a fallacious appeal to the cons...
Bad argument. It basically says that from an assumption outside of moral relativism, there's a problem with moral relativism. But the problem with tha...
Oh no, not you too. No, the disinterested observer would observe that on any given moral issue, there is a right or wrong in a relative sense, and als...
No, your burden of proof is not mine. It is a fallacy to try to shift the burden of proof. Either concede or present your argument. Stop wasting time ...
Also, you don't seem to recognise or appreciate how sophisticated my ethical position is. It is pragmatic and flexible, not rigid. If you want to talk...
I have explained the problem here already. You just aren't getting it and you're sending us around in circles. You said that you believe that there is...
We don't have to agree on the issue. Just admit that you're not being philosophical about it, and we can move on. Being philosophical about it does no...
No, we were talking about what you called "real truth" (in relation to moral statements), remember? What you call "real truth" can't be relative if it...
No, it's not fine, because this is philosophy, and that's not being philosophical. That's more of a religious mindset. Urgh. Kill it with fire. And to...
It looks like you're finally getting it! If by no "real truth" you mean no objective or absolute truth to be found in moral statements, then yes! So i...
Moral judgement relates to right and wrong, not to correct and incorrect. You can judge correct and incorrect, but that's not a moral category of judg...
If you want to boil things down, then no. The cultural is not the foundation of morality. This is what I was arguing about with T Clark earlier. The c...
No, because I'm ultimately an individualistic moral relativist. I only accept cultural relativism as just another way of pointing out moral relations....
My use of "right" was such that it was synonymous with "moral", not such that was synonymous with "correct". And it isn't fine to just disagree. You s...
Multiple people have pointed this out, multiple times, and from very early on in the discussion. We're on page 27, and he is stuck on the same problem...
Fine, but avoiding your problems won't help, and if you refuse to confront them, then you'll be stuck with them. Do you want to be stuck on the same p...
You don't seem to realise the significance of your wording. Your wording reflects your way of thinking, and your way of thinking is problematic. Do yo...
It is wrong to even use the word "allow" in that context. It doesn't "allow" or "disallow" anything. You appear to be deeply stuck in your own problem...
Cultural relativism, properly understood, and moral relativism, properly understood. By cultural relativism, I can say that it's wrong to clink your g...
Tell me about it! How many times do you think that it is going to take? When is it an appropriate time to give up? You can't say that we haven't tried...
And what about correct and incorrect? Is that relative, subjective, objective, absolute? That's important. What exactly are you trying to do here? As ...
That's silly, because then it wouldn't make sense to say, for example, that I'm misusing the word "horse" to refer to cats. But it does make sense to ...
And that's not how it should be used, right? So he was misusing it. You clearly disapprove of the way that he was using it, yet at the same time, you ...
No, horses are fluffy and purr! :lol: Well, he was trying to spin himself as sort of new centrist-style political force, at least. And he does have so...
Imagine if the horse was being beaten, and then Nietzsche stepped in and objected, and then out of nowhere, an old man threw some figs in Nietzsche's ...
He definitely is. I still remember when I started to read one of my first books on philosophy. It was very technical, and not an easy book for a begin...
Interesting, but this is the whole problem: one could answer either way, and one could be right either way, at least in a sense. Meaning is use, inclu...
I did not profess an ignorance of philosophy (in general). I actually know quite a bit about the subject. Way more than the average person. I once had...
Oh okay, then Donald Trump wasn't misusing the term for his own agenda, and therefore Fox News really were being too politically correct. Funny, I tho...
Wow. I read your opening post, and in it, you didn't make clear your meaning of "absolute", and that was clearly a problem for at least one respondent...
That didn't go down too well in France. Macron ended up pissing off just about everyone. As a leftist, I strongly disagreed with some of his policies....
No one is forcing you to be here. There are other "chat rooms", you know. The internet is a big place. If we do not meet your approval, then what's st...
Yeah, well, we've already had that request about a million times. Be more original, Jakey Cakey. Also, can we have a spam filter setting for terms lik...
Good point. Obviously I can't speak for Tim, but this discussion came out of a discussion about morality, where moral absolutism was contrasted with m...
I don't think that others do. They might see me as a corrupting force now, but I know that I'm in the right and that I'll be the stuff of legends. Tal...
I think that some people don't see me as a little teddy bear. They see me as a bear trap. You wouldn't want to snuggle with a bear trap, would you? An...
Quoting from your bible again? I know, I know, cat's got your tongue. You are trying to "rise above" one such as me, it seems. Giving me the cold shou...
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