john27

Yeah, despite the dire setting, I wouldn't necessarily agree that violence is an ethical response.

I agree with that.

I don't know if I entirely agree...

Huh. So violence is like a cure/response to madness, if I understand correctly?

Sometimes, I feel like we should just enact a global presidential boxing match. Let them fight their own problems.

Hm. Suppose you are in a lethal situation with another dude, would you still follow this?

Is justifiable and ethical the same thing?

That's the only book that has made me genuinely terrified.

Huh. What's reference frame?

OK, but the second law of thermodynamics, is a practical view of determinism. Would then, the second law of thermodynamics necessitate a first cause? ...

Mm. It's neat how some ethical reforms were built on the backs of violent revolutions, which isn't necessarily hypocritical in this case, but kind of ...

Ok better put, how can determinism exist without a first cause? Here's maybe a better analogy of my thoughts: 1. determinism 2. determinism -(minus) n...

Maybe pm one of the mods?

How then can determinism verify itself? A deterministic view necessitates a first cause, does it not?

Well like kenosha kid said, it could involve the second law of thermodynamics. I don't really know though.

Could determinism not incorporate non-deterministic free will?

Yes, because in my belief non-deterministic free will is an organization of unknown material in a deterministic setting. In other words, it's not actu...

Well in terms of the predictability of humans and their choices, regarding the analysis of consciousness and thought I'd say 2. is simpler. Maybe cons...

Sure, although wouldn't that mean that free will isn't free, to us?

My partial ignorance could be funded by an enormous chain of deterministic causes, or I could just have free will. Occam's razor?

The will simply is what?

Hm, well it could be said that ethical behaviour is cost effective in a social setting, which would make it more or less scientific.

But wouldn't a human's partial ignorance be funded by his free will?

Well you could as well turn it the other way around, and say that all of humanity is on a linear trajectory, from life to death. I think my problem is...

I'd say yes. Reminds me of the Epicurus paradox. Free will is worthy of worship, to us, due to its positive practicality.

Reminds me of the use of pesticides. We as the public know scarily little about the effects and use of pesticides, not only on us but the environment ...

@"Isaac" Oh wait, I just remembered, Gödels' incompleteness theorem. Didn't he combine language and math to prove that math was finite or something li...

I would say that if you wanted to, I'm sure you could describe linear deviation in a mathematical fashion. Even more so, we are subject to linearity, ...

Wouldn't that describe that math forced your choice? e.g I chose to not walk straight because of math.

Comparative to a solitary life, I'd say that community/society/relationships is good in and of itself.

Libet wha- What's a choice?

I guess it could.

I'm more after a humanistic positivity, something that stems from ourselves, something we can relate to. Kind of like an atheist dream: to live effici...

I think people think that fear has a get-your-but-in-gear effect, but really for me it just makes me paralyzed. I need some positivity if i'm ever gon...

I'd say community has intrinsic value. That may in and of itself be subjective, but since most humans tend to agree that we need (not a need, but y'kn...

Yes! Well, more precisely, you were correct on both terms. I wish I could learn how to love, so I could be all these things.

Reading: Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

How could we do an appropriate analysis without thinking in a philosophical context?

I suppose it would depend on how you look at it and where your looking from. Like always... Oh. My bad.

Nay good fisher, it is someone who simply does not care to know. He has no thirst of knowledge, he's got crops to grow.

In my opinion, free will isn't a popular delusion, its a useful lie. It just renders the world so much more tangible, way easier to work with. Doesn't...

I think Socrates was just bitter he couldn't know everything, so he chose the next best thing.

Hey! I'm not a swine! I prefer "happy human", thank you very much.

I have a personal narrative. It certainly is consistent, although It didn't come from my desire of consistency. It's more so just a series of twists t...

If only I could learn to do the same... All in due time I guess. Or hope so, anyway.

I think this absence of wisdom is only temporary; after all technology grows exponentially, Can't really compare the two.

I suppose Prometheus gave man fire to watch the world burn, but prefer to think it was because he saw that man was cold.

That's a tough question. I'd say just do what your heart tells you, and try not to trip in the process. I think you'll do alright though. Have fun, an...

Mm. Although I think a retention of individualistic thought should be somewhat prioritized, even if at times it's not necessarily possible. You need t...

I would disagree on the fact that all philosophy involves thinking, so long as we attribute thinking to be an individual endeavour. In fact, its fairl...