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Heh. While the reading material became more interesting, I have to say halfway through that makes the conversation less about the text. But that's not...
February 28, 2023 at 22:44
That's awesome. Now, how to intregrate this into a formalization of Hegelian dialectic, and the beginnings of analytic Marxism will be complete! :D
February 28, 2023 at 22:02
:D I agree. There's been a lot of bits like that throughout, for me -- where there's been a slog, but then there's something that finally clicks, and ...
February 28, 2023 at 21:56
Yup! that's what I was thinking. (though it being consistent with V2 is pure luck, since I've yet to get that far!)
February 28, 2023 at 21:38
Page 350 before class started today. Glad to hear some of the comments up front about how this section is when we hit a turning point, because that's ...
February 28, 2023 at 21:24
I agree there's definitely a direction to M-C-C-M -- I interpret it as the second moment in the process of circulation. The C-M-M-C moment is from the...
February 28, 2023 at 21:22
Another good Grundrisse quote, p 328/329 -- for thems who believe that workers are strictly factory workers making things: What counts as a commodity ...
February 28, 2023 at 20:01
This breakdown is really good. Especially with the interweaving of the quotes. I have one but: I thought the first "C" in "M-C-C-M" was the purchase o...
February 28, 2023 at 19:35
Page 322 -- there are these quotes and times in Marx which crack me up because the arguments he's responding to are old even then, and I hear them tod...
February 28, 2023 at 19:29
I don't think so. At least, the identification of self with activity, or at least a strict relationship between the two, is a strong part of existenti...
February 28, 2023 at 18:35
Cool. At some point, though, one finds themself. The deliberative moment is prior to finding oneself. The choices are endless, because one doesn't kno...
February 28, 2023 at 18:06
True! But as soon as I put words to it I can think of a rebuttal in terms of thinking of which is best :D Even directly -- I was thinking how phenomen...
February 28, 2023 at 14:03
Phenomenological-existential. Buuut... I think that for my own case, at least, is correct about why I chose it: I like these philosophers. I wonder, t...
February 28, 2023 at 13:24
I'm not sure if plush forums pings you if I edited your tag, so I'm replying directly here to ping you. (mods feel free to delete this post)
February 28, 2023 at 11:02
I own this one in English. I think I found the paragraph you're talking about. Is it from the last paragraph of Chapter X? If so, maybe that's enough ...
February 28, 2023 at 11:00
This would account for the difference, too, then. Perhaps many of our fellows here on TPF feel the same? The thought being that each thought should be...
February 28, 2023 at 00:29
Surely the professional group also engaged in critical thought, though. I'd say, sure, everyone who answered was engaged in critical thought. It's the...
February 28, 2023 at 00:03
I'd put another spin on the difference. Our community is less homogenous than the professional community, and so it's harder to say the three views pu...
February 27, 2023 at 23:26
Oh, yes, I forgot to mention -- that your theory between the Grundrisse/Capital forms works! (ala M-C-C-M/M-C-M, etc.)That makes a lot of sense. Thank...
February 27, 2023 at 23:11
I came across a good passage today that relates pretty directly. Honestly, this section is proving to be a lot easier than the previous ones. And his ...
February 27, 2023 at 23:01
Well... to be fair he's more cheerful in the sexy murder poet way. (Liam Kofi Bright's Two Tendencies linked: it answers the question why "we" do phil...
February 27, 2023 at 14:06
There were two "buts" I had while reading (I'm sticking to my no working on weekends commitment.;) ) I can't tell if we're supposed to be able to deri...
February 27, 2023 at 13:27
:heart:
February 25, 2023 at 05:38
Hrmmm... I think the one thing in your thoughts that makes it difficult for me to connect to is your emphasis on the individual. Mostly because, this ...
February 25, 2023 at 01:32
Cool. I agree the familiarity of patterns is a factor. I think that's a large part of why I wanted to push against this notion of deliberation! "famil...
February 24, 2023 at 23:11
The sentence I had in mind was "Humans are existential animals" and that was the part I had meant to disagree with, especially in regards to deliberat...
February 24, 2023 at 22:59
I remember liking both of them. I even got to see them give talks through the organizations then. For me I think I traveled elsewhere after because my...
February 24, 2023 at 22:53
Ooooo. Some interesting disagreement! :) What do you make of habit?
February 24, 2023 at 22:44
I think I'd rather say as a condition of existential ethics one presumes a kind of freedom in talking that way. I wouldn't say that all human beings, ...
February 24, 2023 at 20:47
Heh, well, we certainly disagree on "rights" then. "Rights", like property, arise out of how we interact with one another, and so are subject to chang...
February 24, 2023 at 19:32
Cool. I don't mean to say this is all there is to the matter, either, so "a useful way to look" is good enough for me. I would have said there's a dif...
February 24, 2023 at 15:01
For myself, though I certainly agree that circumstances being what they are justify taking back what's already owed, I tend to think that our property...
February 24, 2023 at 13:28
Oh, probably. Though you mentioning tomatoes reminds me that sugar tones down acid. (cooking-flavor wise -- idk otherwise!) I always add one spoonful ...
February 23, 2023 at 03:40
Hrm. I hope not. I was hoping to point to something bigger. Thinking more along the lines of it's no longer theft because we're all OK. Rather than th...
February 23, 2023 at 01:44
Contrarian-wise, I might say that we already live in both these communities. Overall, however, I prefer a community which doesn't care about small "th...
February 23, 2023 at 00:27
Ooooo.... that's pretty good. Meaning-as-command: of course you can lie about it, but there it is!
February 23, 2023 at 00:16
:nerd: That's because the "fishy" smell is produced by amines, which have a free pair of electrons, and acid (as a proton donor) binds to them so you ...
February 23, 2023 at 00:06
heh. Yeah. I go back and forth :D
February 23, 2023 at 00:00
I believe the different positions cannot be mapped to one another. But I don't think that's lost on the respondents, either. That is one of the reason...
February 22, 2023 at 23:48
hrmm I have said that philosophy begins in religion, because I think that's where I'd first encountered ideas that I'd still describe as "philosophica...
February 22, 2023 at 18:02
Non-skeptical realism, here. I answered the question from the perspective of what I believe in my heart of hearts, rather than what I argue. Where my ...
February 22, 2023 at 15:08
Right! That's a good breakdown as I understood it.
February 21, 2023 at 23:38
:D Great minds and such. His little snippets after the fact have been quite useful in looking back, so I was glad he gave us one to think through rath...
February 21, 2023 at 23:21
"Capital is not a simple relation, but a process, in whose various moments it is always capital" -- this makes me think of what you were highlighting ...
February 21, 2023 at 23:18
Oh, these are harsh to get through, I'm not going to lie. Capital was poetry in comparison :D
February 21, 2023 at 21:24
:D Page 284... just shy of the mark. Luckily, looking ahead, March 7th is Spring Break/Book Release, so there's a lull for us to catch up in just arou...
February 21, 2023 at 21:14
Still trying to figure out my schedule. I'm catching up with reading today, like last week. I like your expositions @"fdrake". They are helping me see...
February 21, 2023 at 17:59
Isn't that the same for the artists? Fair. I'm nowhere near the foundations. I just do my lab job, while thinking my little thoughts. Philosophically ...
February 18, 2023 at 21:56
Sorry. I'm filling in gaps where I ought to be asking questions. I'll just ask an open one: what is the spectrum between reductionism and holism? Are ...
February 18, 2023 at 20:16
Yup. The media personalities were actually what made it harder to organize, IMO. I put it in the lounge because I was wishing and pining :D -- there w...
February 18, 2023 at 17:17