Moliere

The same as it means to perceive causes and effects -- one has to start somewhere. We can call that starting point "blotches of color", "cause-and-eff...

I don't infer the existence of some entity -- I infer that there are causes and effects because I directly perceive the entity. I'd also say there is ...

:up: Philosophically speaking I believe the desire to save the afterlife is more against the notion of philosophy -- living a good life with respect t...

Maybe, instead of a general "let's see who shows up" we could do something more limited and focused. That'd actually be someting like Socrates' Cafe a...

Is there an actor or actress you would have preferred? I'm not sure what I mean by "the first to capture the mood", but I did have a deeper emotional ...

This is a great intro to historiography. I especially like that he's using a narrative we USians are familiar with, but is not controversial in the po...

One part of knowledge is belief. In order for someone to know something they also have to believe it, at least with respect to propositional knowledge...

I don't think they start there as much as reject nihilism -- but I'd still interpret them, personally, as meta-ethical nihilists. But I'm kind of mix-...

Nice. I feel the same. Including how to work out these points properly. The "meat" of the sandwich-article, to interpret the speech that way, was what...

Cool. I have more positive feelings towards absurdism than the thread has so far expressed. I'm a lover of Camus -- at least what I've read, and I thi...

Yup. This speak to my doubts, though I'm trying to be as charitable as I can. Oftentimes beliefs in an afterlife are harmful to this life; if you beli...

Yes, I presume so. I suppose I'm not the target, then, and I'm sorry for causing you frustration. I was just stuck on that point.

I think these interlink. A metaphysic often implies an ethic, and vice-versa. I've been chewing on how to write out a "map" of existentialism/nihilism...

Yes. Yup, that's pretty much my contention. If I grant the premise then sure I see a basic modus ponens and the logic works fine. I suppose my thought...

M'kay. And my bad on calling The Rebel a novel. You're better read than I in that case. I have read The Myth of Sisyphus a lot though. I suppose that'...

No I don't think you've set up antinomies -- I just mean any use of "infinite" in a philosophical argument -- "potentially infinite" would count from ...

How do we know that? Using "infinite" in a philosophical argument is always a red flag to me: it's easy to set up antinomies with respect to infinite ...

I think I'd put Camus' answer differently. Though perhaps this is part of the disconnect in the conversation between nihilism, existentialism, and eth...

Cool. You list the novels. But have you read the essay The Myth of Sisyphus? That's where I'd draw from to point out his ethical thinking.

I'm referring to any hell at all, earth-like or otherwise. It's the part where you say "We are much more likely to be right..." that gets me. I just d...

Yes, I think there's a dialogue there, but a distinction. Heh OK fair. I'll eat my words, then, because now that you say this I feel like I know what ...

O man I read that in highschool and loved it. so so good.

I'd say this is more the nihilist position. Where I reject Camus is in his answer, but not in his question. I think "taking responsibility" has a lot ...

Let's see... I think I'd make a pretty hard distinction between existentialism and nihilism. Existentialism is the philosophical response to the neces...

OK cool. I wanted to note there are distinctions of nihilism, and so in some senses he's no nihilist and in others' he is -- the negative connotation ...

I think you're doing a good job of comparing the texts to the summations. But I very much doubt that the professor misunderstands Camus -- I think wha...

I don't think I'd say that's his project, exactly. And I agree with -- Camus is no moral nihilist, and is a deeply ethical thinker. In a rough-and-rea...

OK so it sounds to me like you have a specific idea about what hell is not, and that this is what you're trying to get at. I'm afraid I remain unmoved...

I agree with that. Interesting that the text she wrote was forced private until now... tho unfortunate. I believe philosophy ought be public. However ...

I agree with your defense of Descartes. But I wonder if Descartes is the target? Not really, I don't think. More people inspired by Descartes in a cer...

My interest here is in wondering how it might be possible to rationally think about such imaginings that are widespread in human culture. So the more ...

I'd say it too, which makes it a "of course we would say that!" -- which of course we would. :D I'm a Bachelor in the sense that all Bachelor's are un...

Let's take a practical example. Suppose you present your reasoning to a literal fire-and-brimstone Christian where sinners go to hell for eternity unl...

OK no shows so I'm shutting it down now. Probably gotta get more agreement on times and such to make it happen since we've just been picking times and...

I started the meeting early -- playing games until I hear someone hop on.

https://us05web.zoom.us/j/82479111508?pwd=5DIZCYRP7m2BSDHgj6ZK4DR2amD8xK.1 Meeting ID: 824 7911 1508 Passcode: 7RrQY2 Didn't see anything so I thought...

Heh you flatter me too much. I'm not sure what's going on in scientific circles, in such a general sense -- and I have no pretentions that I'm somehow...

Yeh, OK. I don't think there's a relationship of governance. I wouldn't go that far, though. I'd say there are no laws. But that's at an abstract leve...

:sad: I'm not sure how to parse philosophers from those who fancy themselves philosophers, but I'd say that Philosophy of Science is more like the Oly...

I'd push against this a bit. It's not like scientists cite philosophers of science, of course, tho Scientific practice could have its own philosophy -...

The rocks, all along, were the most dedicated quietists.

I'm afraid I'm more inclined to these approaches: And laid out an excellent argument against the statement "Knowledge is merely belief" -- sometimes, ...

Same, especially cuz it's the weekend. I just kept the first guess cuz no one else said it was bad, meaning anyone interested is good to go :)

From the 6th--7th ? To use your previous format: Sunday, 06 April I have it set for 10am NZD which is 5pm Saturday EST 2pm Saturday WST 9pm GMT

O yeah. Especially cuz it's not like exposing yourself here will help you professionally. :D that's the thought that keeps me coming back: while we're...

That's the bit I'm struggling with. I believe @"ToothyMaw" has a notion he's coming from. I'd like to understand that notion, cuz I think that's the o...

If we have no evidence, and no probabilities, on what basis can we say that our guesses are better guesses? You still say that a prediction in favor o...

So we compare Afterlife 1 to Afterlife 2. How do we do this comparison? You say "based on the potential for accuracy within each possibility" So that'...

Why would the proliferation of ideas about any unknown influence its chances of being true? If we are to judge whether an idea is more or less likely ...

:D Probably my fave of theirs.