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You need to read the texts more closely. Saul was a cop hunting down Christians for committing heresy according to his form of Jewish Law. He changed ...

I wasn't thinking of it in terms of the ultimate source for the idea of Monotheism. Platonism and Neo-Platonism do make references to Orphic and Eleus...

That is the context of what I was asking schopenhauer1 about upthread. Is the emphasis upon Hellenization an evolved development of the replacement th...

Then do it.

I was not testifying to an unshakeable belief in scholarship. You questioned the results of certain studies. You have not presented the standard you m...

Then go for it. It does have something to do with this thread since you have been saying the scholarship is tainted in the context of it.

It does make sense. I don't want to suggest I live in a different country.

That does sound like a fun date. Too fun, maybe. But my experience of that sort of love would not put me in that situation. The sudden is the proof of...

I was not making a claim about the 'Hellenistic influence on Jesus', you were, sort of, in a vague and fuzzy fashion. You seem to want to make a claim...

I like the idea of unconditional love. Not because we could ever escape conditions or gain some leverage by it. It seems to me to happen despite many ...

One common element between the experiences of the Jews and Christians, under the rule of alien empires, is the refusal to swear or submit to gods othe...

I am a Christian by my understanding of it. I have spent a lot of time trying to understand the texts and my own experience in that light. I don't nee...

So, you treat the matter as something that is common knowledge while unable to give your own testimony. In my congregation, we refer to that as coward...

What is a Christian?

That statement does not fit in with you saying to Fooloso4: "anti-Christian activists like yourself cite other anti-Christian activists like Ehrman as...

What I wonder is how these disputes about Hellenization relate to theological views on the Christan side. There are many texts in early Christianity t...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0yma1HqHA

Your account discounts the role of the Essenes and Enoch groups in viewing the matter beyond the sweaty business of winning wars. The notion expressed...

I meant to give the word its due as a Hellenistic concept. I question that it is the only reference to the importance of speaking words in the differe...

Logos obviously has meaning in the narrative as a Greek word but how it is used as a source of creation is evident in Judaic literature in many differ...

Whatever the source of that idea, it is incongruous with the Platonic teaching, expressed continuously over hundreds of years before Jesus, that there...

I am not aware of any place where Plotinus uses language like: "the doctrine of the Will of the One." In the 'chain of realities' the One is not the d...

I remember. I acknowledged that but wanted to emphasize that the observation did not pit mind against matter. What stands as objective criteria is wha...

It is a model in so far as it allows to have the 'physical' to be taken for granted. But I will leave it there. I see that my reasoning only interests...

Lewontin views the matter ideologically for purposes that do not address the limits of scientific method. If the method rejects the top-down structure...

I am going to take some time answering. Thank you for assembling your answer.

I read Gerson's lecture; you gave me the link to the text of it. I have read a good portion of the book that lecture is basically the preface of. The ...

In this discussion of 'materialism', I have been looking for a way to acknowledge Nagel's narrative of how the scientific method came about without ac...

I think I understand Gerson's thesis and its relation to the development of the scientific method. Since you spoke approvingly of phenomenology, I was...

Well, that does count as an agenda. Disregard my previous reserve on that point. This place is stranger than I thought.

For my part, I don't want to assign an agenda to someone assigning an agenda. i can oppose it or question it without doing that. That is my ideal, any...

Yes. Click on the link Fooloso4 provided.

This part is quite exiting: "anti-Christian activists like yourself cite other anti-Christian activists like Ehrman as their "eminent authority". You ...

I have been reading quite a bit of Lloyd Gerson upon the strength of your recommendation. I have a growing number of problems with his thesis but leav...

Another possibility is that Grimes is overstating the presence of an element and has come up with a cause to explain its apparent absence. The natural...

I was mostly hoping to challenge the utility of framing the project as a ""promissory materialism" while acknowledging Nagel's point about scientific ...

Grimes also claimed that the core of Jesus' message did not reflect the concerns or concepts of Judaism. I hope the contributions by schopenhauer1 and...

Scientific models rely upon relating measurable entities to each other and testing to see if the models leave phenomena out or not. I understand Nagel...

then you will have to find out what pleases you. That is what will interest or turn people off. Natural selection, if you will.

Depends on levels of emotional maturity. Some men have a knack for it. Others need a baseball bat.

So, if Grimes turned out to be correct, you would have no problem with that?

With all of these conditions observed regarding the mixture of language and culture in such a time of extreme violence, it is difficult to say what ac...

I am chipping away at the lecture but have to stop all the time to research the premises. I am not a student dedicated to this period of theology. I d...

As a matter of scientific method, using the models that have been developed so far is not dependent upon including "materiality" as a prerequisite. Th...

An excellent account. Thank you.

In that your interest was piqued by the comment: "'addresses the psychological drives that underlie various philosophical programs and perspectives, a...

It sounds like some version of Bridgeman's operationalism combined with Skinner's behaviorism in order to establish Rand's direct realism as a law of ...

It is difficult to separate the original from what some people made of it because the reports we have that have survived time and erasure are also res...

In regard to the Judaic elements, you may be interested in Oliver5 comments in the "Jesus Freaks" OP.

Don the Don asked the class: "What is the difference between a sophist and a philosopher? Franz: The sophist just wants to win contests whereas the ph...